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Who can we least afford to lose next year, Mickey or Martin

Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Bootycall
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:26 pm
Hope it's not both.
This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 12:27 pm
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43040 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:27 pm to
Mikey for sure. Kid is bad arse.
Posted by lsufan52224
Downers Grove, IL
Member since Mar 2014
205 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:28 pm to
Mickey because if Elbert doesn't develop we will have no true center
Posted by ShlikStyck
Bum F**k Egypt
Member since Jan 2005
3780 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:28 pm to
So what the prediction?.....besides pain
Posted by lsurulz1515
Member since Mar 2007
5595 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:32 pm to
We need Mickey back, though Martin is a better prospect.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68267 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:35 pm to
Martin has a higher ceiling but him and Simmons are kinda similar players. Mickey would be the bigger addition back but is the more likely to declare IMO.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:37 pm to
I will say that Martin can make his own shot better.

If we had to have only one next year, I think I'd rather Martin to be honest. Maybe it's just because Mickey is in a slump. IDK.
This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 12:38 pm
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45041 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:42 pm to
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If we had to have only one next year, I think I'd rather Martin to be honest. Maybe it's just because Mickey is in a slump.


Id think we would rather Mickey. Keep in down low as a post presence. Replacing Martin with Simmons shouldnt be that difficult of a transition. Simmons is closer to martin than mickey but has a wider skill set. Without Mickey we arent guaranteed a true proven Center or Power forward.

I think Simmons can replace the inside/out game Martin has developed moreso than we can hope for anyone we have coming close to replacing Mickey.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:50 pm to
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Replacing Martin with Simmons shouldnt be that difficult of a transition. Simmons is closer to martin than mickey but has a wider skill set. Without Mickey we arent guaranteed a true proven Center or Power forward.


I agree that Simmons is more similar to Martin, but I don't think that changes my opinion of who LSU would rather have.

I love Mickey and his ability to block shots, but I'd almost rather have the height and the guy who you know can score on an island. I think Mickey's block total does give some people a over-inflated sense of Mickey's defensive prowess. It allows a ton of back side offensive rebounds, and he really struggles to guard post players one on one.
Posted by SL Tiger
Houston
Member since May 2007
2223 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:50 pm to
I think it's Martin as he would fit better with the 2 coming in. Ben should play SF and the offense should run through him. We could go big with one of the 2 7 footers, Martin, Simmons, AB, and TQ. That's assuming AB is effective at PG.

I could see a bunch of (lineup) options if either M&M comes back.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:51 pm to
Craig Victor will be a big time defender and rebounder down low also.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155262 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:53 pm to
Mickey actually considered leaving last year, think martin will be back barring a ridiculous run of games a la UF which he is certainly capable of
Posted by ALT F4
Member since Jan 2015
2292 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:53 pm to
damn Victor should have came here right out of the game...
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28192 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:57 pm to
Mickey. Easily.

He's not the best on ball defender, but his shot blocking makes up for a LOT of poor defensive play. Even just his presence inside alters how teams attack LSU. There are plenty of times where his blocks are the first "pass" in LSU's transition game.

There are times where Martin disappears in games yet other guys are able to pick up the slack offensively. There's no one on LSU's team that can make up for Mickey's ability to protect the rim. Once Mickey leaves LSU fans will realize that "you don't know what you've got until it's gone"
This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 12:59 pm
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
10420 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:59 pm to
I think the Kentucky game was Martin's coming out party and he finally figured out how he has to play. Martin will be a force next year if he decides to stay. I just don't see Mickey with as high of a ceiling for improvement as Martin had. Now having both back would be unbelievable.
Posted by SL Tiger
Houston
Member since May 2007
2223 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:00 pm to
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Craig Victor will be a big time defender and rebounder down low also.


I forgot about Victor. Victor will be a huge add.
Posted by LSU 318 LSU
El Cerrito Place
Member since Jan 2011
4278 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:01 pm to
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Mickey because if Elbert doesn't develop we will have no true center
What?
Posted by Jthomley
Arkansas
Member since Oct 2013
379 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:03 pm to
What if we don't lose either? Who sits while Simmons plays ?
Posted by ALT F4
Member since Jan 2015
2292 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:06 pm to
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What if we don't lose either? Who sits while Simmons plays ?


you probably start

Quarterman
Hornsby/Blakeney
Simmons
Martin
Mickey
Posted by JPenn91
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2012
454 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:07 pm to
Think about how many more games we could've lost without Mickey playing defense. Blocks are huge and lead to fast breaks often

Martin has been in foul trouble and missed big time minutes in some games. In those times, Mickey shouldered the load and played well. And his jumper is smooth. I honestly think his offensive game is on the same level as Martin.

Either one staying would be huge. Love both of these guys. If they both leave, look for similar results next year, regardless of what recruits we bring in. It's just like replacing really good players with two new ones if M&M leave. I don't see us being much better if we lose both of these young men
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