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re: Where does TM7 get drafted?
Posted on 4/27/12 at 11:07 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/27/12 at 11:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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he doesn't look that fast (like chad jones and da clay pidgeon)
I know for a fact that chad jones is slower than TM7.
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Posted on 4/27/12 at 11:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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do you think he's going to run under a 4.45?
high 4.4 would be my guess, which isn't bad considering his football IQ and instincts are very good.
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he's not close to a lock down player
how many times has he gotten beat in coverage since he's been playing here? 6 or 7 times in 2 years, if that? Even when "he's beaten" hes usually in good posisiton, which tells me, he has cover skills.
Posted on 4/27/12 at 11:29 am to LsuTool
PP and Claiborne 
Posted on 4/27/12 at 11:37 am to SlowFlowPro
Brandon Flowers is 5'9" and a legit cover corner in the NFL. So, the size debate is really hit or miss.
Dude is pretty fricking fast. In a foot race, Claiborne barely beats him out.
Let's look at the facts:
The kid hasn't ever turned 20 yet and has already been labeled the best college defensive player in the country.
It is absolutely absurd how someone can think he's even close to finished developing as a player, not that he really needs to.
But yeah, he sucks at coverage..
He's too small to tackle... (led the team in tackles in 2011)
Good thing his other talents bail him out...
Haters gonna hate.
You can skip to the 15 second mark for more visual evidence of his NFL potential if you wish.
/end rant
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TM7 doenst have good speed?
do you think he's going to run under a 4.45? even on his returns, he doesn't look that fast
Dude is pretty fricking fast. In a foot race, Claiborne barely beats him out.
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the myth that TM7 is bad in coverage blows my mind.
he's not close to a lock down player
TM7's contributions have mostly come on special teams or blitzing as a nickel back off the edge. after this he strips the ball in piles.
Let's look at the facts:
The kid hasn't ever turned 20 yet and has already been labeled the best college defensive player in the country.
It is absolutely absurd how someone can think he's even close to finished developing as a player, not that he really needs to.
But yeah, he sucks at coverage..
He's too small to tackle... (led the team in tackles in 2011)
Good thing his other talents bail him out...
Haters gonna hate.
You can skip to the 15 second mark for more visual evidence of his NFL potential if you wish.
/end rant
This post was edited on 4/27/12 at 11:39 am
Posted on 4/27/12 at 11:44 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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Brandon Flowers is 5'9" and a legit cover corner in the NFL. So, the size debate is really hit or miss.
i think picking out 1 guy makes the point of the side saying he's small
he was listed at 5-10 in college and i'm trying to find his combine height. was it 5-9 and change?
i don't think TM7 is much higher than 5-8
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In a foot race, Claiborne barely beats him out.
and LSU legend said that Mo was faster than PP7 in 2010. that was...not true
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The kid hasn't ever turned 20 yet and has already been labeled the best college defensive player in the country.
college isn't the NFL, though
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It is absolutely absurd how someone can think he's even close to finished developing as a player,
i said he could work on coverage
he can't work on size or speed
Posted on 4/27/12 at 11:50 am to SlowFlowPro
Need more pictures.... No thread is legit unless more pictures.... Slow your argument is invalid without them
Posted on 4/27/12 at 11:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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i think picking out 1 guy makes the point of the side saying he's small
I think showing an elite cover corner in the NFL with similar build disproves this notion that he is too small to be an effective corner in the NFL.
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college isn't the NFL, though
I agree, I am skeptical on his success in the NFL but I would be more than happy to take an early shot on him if he could even partially contribute to my team like he does at LSU.
Posted on 4/27/12 at 12:02 pm to SportTiger1
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Where does TM7 get drafted?
Mathieu is not a lockdown corner, therefore his chance of going in the 1st round is extremely slim. His stature will also hurt him. He'll probably be moved to Safety in the NFL. He's a 3rd Round pick at best.
Posted on 4/27/12 at 12:06 pm to SportTiger1
I say second round.
Looked at a few mocks of 2013 (not including bleacher report) all have him going from 8th to 23rd in the first round.
Looked at a few mocks of 2013 (not including bleacher report) all have him going from 8th to 23rd in the first round.
Posted on 4/27/12 at 12:14 pm to SportTiger1
If he plays like he did last year he will be drafted in the middle of the first.....no doubt.
Posted on 4/27/12 at 12:17 pm to Telephone Tough Guy
The one thing all of you fail to realize is the kids work ethic. Mo wasnt a top 10 before he entered his jr year. He worked his butt off and became the shutdown corner. I expect Tyrann to do the same. Also seen a bunch of fans tear down their own like that. You guys are awful talent evaluators. The NFL loves ball skills and TM7 has as much as anybody
Posted on 4/27/12 at 1:10 pm to SportTiger1
I say mid 2nd to early 3rd. He's got great ball skills and awareness, but just doesn't have the height, speed, and strength. Look at Kellen Moore. He was a top 5 QB in college, and he's going to end up 4th round at best! Size plays a big part in this sport, at that level.
Posted on 4/27/12 at 1:22 pm to tkr1407
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but just doesn't have the height
this is his only limitation
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speed
is fine
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strength
first I've heard of anyone questioning his strength.
This post was edited on 4/27/12 at 1:23 pm
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