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re: What is a acceptable record for Coach Ed Orgeron this year?
Posted on 7/15/17 at 3:01 am to Madking
Posted on 7/15/17 at 3:01 am to Madking
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And no not everyone on earth agrees with you in fact the majority of posters in this thread don't. Just another false tactic to try and shed positive light on you opinion. You can huff and puff all you like but when one group has the same winning pct as the other there's no difference in the two no matter how you want to spin it.
so what you're saying is miles had one of the best tenures in sec history?
no matter how you soon it. win % ooc win% some of the best in sec history
I'll wait for you to show me one poster agreeing with you
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 3:02 am
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 3:01 am to Rickdaddy4188
I'm out. Do what you want.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 3:02 am to Rickdaddy4188
You gave 1 example lmfao. Whatever dude the facts speak for themselves sorry you're reacting this way about it. FYI earthquake game boutta start on SEC network.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 3:02 am to la_birdman
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I'm out. Do what you want.
thanks. I don't know why we have to do this dance every time. I don't care what you think of me.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 3:04 am to Madking
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You gave 1 example lmfao.
what?
can you read?
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poster 1
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The only explanation for anyone to argue that the SEC in the early 2000's is just as tough as the SEC of the past 10 years or so has got to be, #1 prop up Saban and his accomplishments at LSU and #2 crap all over Miles.
poster 2
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No one in the college football world would argue that 2000-2005 SEC West is anywhere close to the level of 2010-2015 SEC west, who won 4/6 NCs. That's just not realistic.
poster 3
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Miles faced better competition without a doubt.
3 different posters.
earl, sports and bowed.
now show me people agreeing with you
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Whatever dude the facts speak for themselves sorry you're reacting this way about it.
a win % that favors my stance is your onky leg to stand on. I'm done bro. love ya
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 3:08 am
Posted on 7/15/17 at 6:13 am to Rickdaddy4188
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from 2000-2002 88% of the west teams had 4 OR MORE LOSSES. that's not parody
Holy shite, rickdaddy! I always enjoy your arguments, but I've got to inject some sanity here.
"Parody" is the wrong word. I think you're looking for "parity".
Also, the sentence would still be wrong, because all teams having at least four losses does, indeed, indicate parity - it's just parity at a mediocre level.
Clearly the SEC, and the SEC West, are tougher now than in Saban's LSU tenure. And you are correct when you point out that Saban had more success than Miles because he was a better coach facing tougher competition. That should have ended the argument.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 6:21 am to Rickdaddy4188
When talking about who wins more win pct is all I need. You keep bringing up what the top tier teams did and that's fine but it doesn't account for the entire division. What you're saying is as long as a division has 1 or 2 teams that are elite then it doesn't matter what the bottom 4 or 5 teams do. That's flawed logic and makes no sense. I have a question for you, who was the best conference in the country last season?
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 6:32 am
Posted on 7/15/17 at 6:31 am to Madking
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All you're saying is that a top heavy league is better in your opinion than a league that's good 1-6.
Madking, That sentence gets to the crux of the matter. Imagine this: if the West had six 0.500 teams, and you added a half dozen NFL players to two of the teams, the league's records would spread out. The four other teams would have worse records, and the lucky two would probably have one loss between them.
Alternatively, if you took that same balanced league and removed a half dozen good players from two teams the league's records would also spread out.
In the first example, the league would clearly be stronger, but in the second it's clearly weaker.
It appears to me that the first example more closely resembles what actually happened. The SEC became the premiere league, and the talent flocked in - even to Ole Miss, for goodness sake.
If neither example is reflective, then I would say that a team fighting for championships would rather face a league with parity than one with a couple of great teams, but an average team would rather face a balanced league in which it would stand a fighting chance of winning out.
Anyway, good point above.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 6:45 am to Penrod
Yes it has happened to an extent. The Bama effect has done more to change the division than anything els. If you look when I first posted the stats you'll see that Miles first 5 seasons at LSU the SEC west was under .500 as a whole then Saban went to Bama and raised the league up to over the .500 mark. Then The addition of Texas A&M raised it up some more to where it is now. The other major difference in the two eras is that the bottom teams tend to be completely non competitive in this era compared to Sabans era. Besides Crooms early years at State every game in the West was a dogfight back then.
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 6:52 am
Posted on 7/15/17 at 6:56 am to axd9142a
Humiliate Alabama, Florida and Ole Miss....other than that...don't care. Forget about Miles...Lil Nicky sent him home... 
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 7:07 am
Posted on 7/15/17 at 7:08 am to axd9142a
Anything less than 9 regular season wins is a failure with the talent on the field & with the Canada & Aranda combo.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 7:34 am to Solo Cam
quote:says who? The defense, while a little less experience should be better. Loc was supposed to start last year before O defenders get all defensive. The offense better improve under Canada. All I can say is overall there's more talent outside of JA than left.
What is a acceptable record for Coach Ed Orgeron this year?
It's a rebuilding year and we play 5 SEC road games. Our cross division teams are Florida and Tennessee.
10-2 would be great
9-3 would be good
8-4 and he better win 10 next year
Posted on 7/15/17 at 7:43 am to GeologyGrad88
10-3. One more year.
Beat bama, two more years.
11-2 two more years.
Sec champ 3 more years.
Hes got etling who is just ok.
I want to give him a year with brennan, narcisse, et cetera.
Beat bama, two more years.
11-2 two more years.
Sec champ 3 more years.
Hes got etling who is just ok.
I want to give him a year with brennan, narcisse, et cetera.
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 7:44 am
Posted on 7/15/17 at 7:50 am to axd9142a
LSU can do what Alabama does every year now that Miles isn't there anymore, and what I mean by that is run the table like Alabama does every year, but I don't expect them to. They'll be 1 or 2 maybe even 3 miscues in there because of costly mistakes in close games at critical times in the game. When Miles was coaching LSU despite his ineptitude LSU was always in every game that they played even Alabama. So, now that he's gone and Canada is coaching the offense with no interference, I expect them to be so much better it isn't funny. The Florida game is a joke to me because I expect it to be a blow out in LSU's favor. So let ole golden mouth talk his shite because he will eat all of it when their asses are stomped in their backyard, I just hate that the bastards got 2 home games because of their screw up.
If Canada gets LSU playing on offense like Aranda has the defense playing, Alabama is the only real threat. And even they will be nervous because Saban knows Miles is not across the field anymore to hand him close games.
If Canada gets LSU playing on offense like Aranda has the defense playing, Alabama is the only real threat. And even they will be nervous because Saban knows Miles is not across the field anymore to hand him close games.
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 7:54 am
Posted on 7/15/17 at 8:00 am to MOT
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The view of 9-3 depends on how the season unfolds and how we got there.
for me, it depends on who those three losses are. But 10 wins should be the standard. I support O....although I wouldnt have hired him.....because he is the current LSU coach.
I think he has changed the culture surrounding the program, brought in great coaches, and most importantly, I can understand the man when he speaks.
But if he goes 8-4...even though it wouldn't be that surprising given our schedule...his seat should get real hot.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 8:32 am to RedTigerRulz
THIS is Going to be a TOUGH Year, Per DD- NEW Head Coach, New OC, NEW WR Coach, New RB Coach. We lost 3 1st rd draft choices, Brutal schedule with 5 SEC road games. We will find out all we need to know about coach O, and I predict we are in good hands and will win 10 GAMES.
Prediction #2, Miles will find a job and he will bomb without the big budget for the best recruiters and coaching staff money can buy, and Rickdaddy and the Miles lovers will disappear, NOWHERE TO BE FOUND!!!!
Prediction #2, Miles will find a job and he will bomb without the big budget for the best recruiters and coaching staff money can buy, and Rickdaddy and the Miles lovers will disappear, NOWHERE TO BE FOUND!!!!
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 8:33 am
Posted on 7/15/17 at 9:10 am to axd9142a
For Coach O to be considered successful, LSU need to substantially improve over what Miles was dishing out. Third in the West, 9-3, 8-4 ain't gonna cut it. For that, we could have kept Miles and kept the entertainment level up. 
Posted on 7/15/17 at 1:07 pm to Freauxzen
Couldn't give two shits about wins. Win the west. Whatever gets us there.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 1:36 pm to vjm41
Posted on 7/15/17 at 1:49 pm to axd9142a
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I would say 10-3
for predictions, do it based on the 12-game regular season. The 13th game is too much of an unknown.
Do we go 9-3, with 3 bad losses, and then win a shitty bowl, like 2015 (I'm counting canceled McNeese as a win)?
Or do we go 10-2 with 2 close losses and then lose a close NY6 bowl against a very good team.
Those two 10-3 scenarios tell vastly different stories.
Stick with 12 games for predictions.
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