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re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his careerPosted by LSU FREAK on 7/28/15 at 11:17 pm to fightingtigers98
Physically gifted, mentally challenged. Not trying to down him, but he never seemed to execute the offense. Presnap he looked terrified or confused nearly every play.
re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his careerPosted by zsav77 on 7/28/15 at 11:21 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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To top it all off he was stubborn and obtuse
I think that's a main reason for JJ hate... he always seemed to be blaming everyone for his mistakes. You'd see him on tv pointing and making that pissy face... never saw him raise his hand or point to himself indicating he made a mistake.
Other than being an average QB, the kid seemed like a shitty teammate and an a-hole.
re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his careerPosted by TigerNlc on 7/28/15 at 11:37 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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He also bailed LSU out of the Florida game absolutely, and probably the Alabama game as well in 2010.
He made a good play in the Bama game but I'll give JJ that game. Lee def bailed him out of the Florida game and the Tennessee game. Wheels could have really come off of that 2010 season.
re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his careerPosted by SwampyLSU on 7/28/15 at 11:45 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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Anthony Jennings, as bad as he was last year, will finish with better stats than JJ...if Jennings plays the next two years......let that sink in
Well if Jennings starts the next two years than we're in a lot of trouble. But the stats aren't in your favor and i'm really not sure what you see in him. If Harris starts for this entire season I have full confidence that he'd exceed JJ's numbers.
JJ's first year starting
182 for 296 61.5% 2,166 yds 17 tds 7 ints
AJ's first year starting
111 for 227 48.9% 1,611 yds 11 tds, 7 ints
re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his careerPosted by Bmath on 7/29/15 at 12:36 am to Rickdaddy4188
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In what reality is
61 completion%
3/1 tds ints ratio
7.7 yards per attempt
138.7
Not playing well?
Well, from above:
Career
398-678 4733 yards 34 TDs and 20 INTs
359 rushes 1018 yards 12 TDs
32 starts went 24-8
Jefferson had less than a 60% completion percentage. Also, a 3/1 TD to INT ratio is wildly exaggerated as he had a 1.7 TD to INT ratio. Even if you incorrectly added in rushing TD's the ratio would only increase to 2.3.
Regardless, he had some of the most statistically insignificant games imaginable for a QB. Perhaps that can be blamed on the coaching, but his questionable off the field incidents cannot.
re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his careerPosted by RedTigerRulz on 7/29/15 at 1:00 am to zsav77
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Other than being an average QB, the kid seemed like a shitty teammate and an a-hole.
ding ding ding.....we have a winner
re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his careerPosted by say when on 7/29/15 at 5:49 am to fightingtigers98
Now why do we give a frick about this right now?
re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his careerPosted by TexasTiger89 on 7/29/15 at 6:01 am to fightingtigers98
Weed?
re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his careerPosted by Galactic Inquisitor on 7/29/15 at 8:36 am to LsuTool
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He played in a jacked up scheme
Yep, Crouton failed. His best year as an OC is when he was calling plays from Jimbo's system.
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re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his careerPosted by Galactic Inquisitor on 7/29/15 at 8:38 am to zsav77
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the kid seemed like a shitty teammate and an a-hole.
WTF? He didn't interact well with the media, but calling him a shitty teammate or an a-hole is just stupid. There's a reason why his teammates voted him back.
re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his careerPosted by Galactic Inquisitor on 7/29/15 at 8:39 am to Bmath
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Well, from above:
Career
398-678 4733 yards 34 TDs and 20 INTs
359 rushes 1018 yards 12 TDs
32 starts went 24-8
Jefferson had less than a 60% completion percentage. Also, a 3/1 TD to INT ratio is wildly exaggerated as he had a 1.7 TD to INT ratio. Even if you incorrectly added in rushing TD's the ratio would only increase to 2.3.
He's talking about his sophomore season.
re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his careerPosted by 1badboy on 7/29/15 at 8:56 am to Galactic Inquisitor
Jesus, make it stop!!!
re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his careerPosted by Galactic Inquisitor on 7/29/15 at 9:04 am to 1badboy
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Jesus, make it stop!!!
It really should be anchored.
re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his careerPosted by dgnx6 on 7/29/15 at 9:12 am to Rickdaddy4188
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games against top 5 defenses? Sure. Like it or not JJ had a good 2011 season. I'll take facts over your dumbass opinion. In no way is a 138 qb rating bad.
I guess you missed where he had 261 of our 494 total yards against #3 arky. ( he had 52% of our offense) or the 110 yards our of 239 against #2 bama ( he had 46% of our entire offensive output).
he had a bad 2010 season other than against tamu, which might have been his best game of his career. two bad games in 2011 against good DS. but even elite qbs had bad games when they face LSU and Bama. he was a below average qb, not the worst we have had. the other guy he split time with was pretty bad as well.
re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his careerPosted by LSUMurple on 7/29/15 at 9:22 am to fightingtigers98
Its simple people.
re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his careerPosted by Salviati on 7/29/15 at 9:56 am to fightingtigers98
SEC Regular Season Games
Jefferson generally got better over the years. He had a tough year in 2010, but he generally improved over the course of his college career. Specifically, Jefferson improved two out of his three years. His numbers got much better after Crowton, the QB killer, left.
Compare Jefferson to his peer, Jarrett Lee, Jefferson was a better QB than Lee.
Jefferson's three regular season starts in 2011 were the three best offensive games of the season.
It wasn't that one of Jefferson's games was better than one of Lee's games. It wasn't that the average of Jefferson's three starts was better than the average of Lee's starts. Every regular season game that Jefferson started was better than every regular season game that Lee started.
LSU's best rushing game happened when Jefferson started.
LSU's best total offense game happened when Jefferson started.
LSU's best completion percentage game happened when Jefferson started.
In the nine games that Lee started during the regular season, LSU gained over 400 yards just once. In the three games that Jefferson started during the regular season, LSU gained more than 400 yards in every game. Every game.
Jefferson had better regular season passing numbers than Lee.
Compare regular season numbers. Jefferson had better passing numbers than Lee: higher Completion %; higher QB Rating; higher YPA; lower Interception %. And that's not even mentioning how much Jefferson improved the team's rushing attack. LSU rushed for over 250 yards in every game of Jefferson’s three starts.
Lee threw for over 200 yards (213) just once in nine games. Jefferson threw for more than 200 yards (208) once in just three games.
Jefferson completed 100% of his passes against Ole Miss. Lee never completed 100% of his passes in any of his starts, not even against Northwestern State, an FCS school.
In Lee's nine regular season starts, he completed less than 50% of his passes three times. In Jefferson's three starts, he always completed more than 55% of his passes.
Post-season numbers cannot be compared. Jefferson played in the Championship games. Lee didn't
Jefferson was more efficient than Lee
From the moment that Jefferson threw his first pass in the Florida game in 2011, he had a higher QB Rating than Lee. Jefferson had a better efficiency rating than Lee, and that better efficiency continued for the rest of the regular season. That's right, from his first pass until the end of the regular season, Jefferson was more efficient than Lee.
So when folks say that Lee was an efficient QB, the "most efficient" QB in the SEC or in the nation, at no point during the regular season, from the time Jefferson threw his first pass until the end of the regular season, was Lee more efficient than Jefferson.
re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his careerPosted by TangipahoaTiger on 7/29/15 at 10:09 am to zsav77
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Other than being an average QB, the kid seemed like a shitty teammate and an a-hole.
Dont forget shitstorm Shady.
I would enjoy ruining your day, because the stats posted here are just hilarious, but we'll keep it simple...
So why limit it to the regular season? Why not compare the actual teams being played....or is it your contention that doesnt matter, or they're all the same.
This is a pathetically childish analysis. Good effort, good try.
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In the nine games that Lee started during the regular season, LSU gained over 400 yards just once. In the three games that Jefferson started during the regular season, LSU gained more than 400 yards in every game. Every game.
So why limit it to the regular season? Why not compare the actual teams being played....or is it your contention that doesnt matter, or they're all the same.
This is a pathetically childish analysis. Good effort, good try.
re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his careerPosted by lsufball19 on 7/29/15 at 10:18 am to CptBengal
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In the three games that Jefferson started during the regular season, LSU gained more than 400 yards in every game
Against Western Kentucky, Ole Miss, and Arkansas. Arkansas was a good game. WKU and Ole Miss were both horrible teams. LSU rolls both of those teams with Andrew Hatch at QB. And why did you leave out the SECCG and BCSCG? Because Jefferson played two of the worst games by a QB in LSU history?
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