re: What caused LSU Football's putrid 90's run?

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The reason why he went to SD State is because they recruited him as a running back. All the other schools wanted him to play DB

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exactly, all the elite programs wanted him at DB, its just LSU that missed, everyone did, it happens, but its 20/20 hindsight to cry about it, unlike a lot of other guys we lost.

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If DiNardo would have just replaced his talented DB Coach Ron Case (Left to join Mack Browns's staff at North Carolina) and DC Carl Reese (Left to be John Mackovic's DC at Texas) with coaches of equal talent, he may still be the coach at L.S.U

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Reese joined Brown at Texas. and who knows, maybe he does anyway, but the fact is, he got a big raise and DiNardo could not pay top dollar, like we do today, for assistants, so you get what you pay for.

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seem to recall some coach that wrote the book "Complete Linebacking" being implicated in a lot of the DiNardo downfall

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he makes an easy scape goat, but he was not the whole problem. First of all he was a good coach, but was not a good fit for LSU and his scheme did not fit our personel at all. Helluva lot easier to coach LB's when you have Rice and Hardy.

The biggest problem DiNardo has was he didn't pay enough attention to eligibilty for his recruits. As a result, by his last year, he was not fielding full teams. It was like suffering from probation, only with out being on probation.

"The biggest problem DiNardo has was he didn't pay enough attention to eligibilty for his recruits. As a result, by his last year, he was not fielding full teams. It was like suffering from probation, only with out being on probation."

There's a lot of truth to that. He had high ranked recruiting classes, but the reality was several of the highest recruits never got in school. We all know how important recruiting is. It doesn't matter if you have the greatest staff in the world. It starts with talent.

As mentioned in another thread, Archer was and continues to be a good DC. He was just a horribly horrific HC. No where near HC material. He put LSU into the tailspin.

HCs need to be able to assemble a good staff, recruit, and inspire the troops. Archer was poor at one of these and very bad at the other two.

The "talent" LSU put on the field by the end of Archer's tenure around 1990 was the worst ever in relation to their competition in the SEC. We had slow white DBs. Enough said.

The one thing you can say about Curley is that he was a better recruiter. He left DiNardo something to work with. Archer left Curley nothing.

prop 48..i googled:

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Blacks Hit Hard by Proposition 48, Survey Shows

By The Associated Press
Published: September 09, 1988





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The majority of college football recruits disqualified because of Proposition 48 this year are black, according to a survey by The Associated Press. The survey also found that the overall number of academically ineligible recruits has stabilized.

The survey was able to identify the race of 213 of the 274 recruits disqualified this year by Proposition 48, or 77.7 percent. A total of 185 of those recruits are black, 86.8 percent.

Critics have said that these numbers show that standardized tests such as those used under Proposition 48 are culturally biased.

''We know that standardized test scores are correlated with socioeconomic status,'' said Ursula Walsh, director for research for the National Collegiate Athletic Association.

Walsh said black recruits accounted for 81 percent of football ineligibles in 1986 and 90 percent in 1987, according to an N.C.A.A. survey. Aptitude Tests Defended

Those who put together the tests disagreed with those who said that they were culturally biased.

''It's being very simplistic to blame the difference in scores on the test and not look for the reasons behind it,'' said Frank Moreno, associate director of public affairs for The College Board, which sponsors the Scholastic Aptitude Test. ''It's not so much cultural difference as much as educational backgrounds of blacks, their having appreciably less academic courses in high school.''

Proposition 48 requires recruits to score a minimum 700 out of a possible 1,600 points on the Scholastic Aptitude Test, or 15 out of 36 on the American College Test, and have at least a 2.0 high school grade-point average in 11 mandatory courses to be eligible. Difference in Average Scores

In 1987, the average S.A.T. score nationally for all students was 906. The average score for blacks was 728.

The 274 recruits who failed to meet the N.C.A.A.'s academic requirements this year was a slight improvement over the 278 last year.

There were 401 ineligible recruits for the 1986 season, the first year the academic requirements went into effect.

Of 1987's ineligible recruits, 201, or 72.3 percent, attended their colleges and became eligible for this season. Of 1986's ineligibles, 69.3 percent returned last year.

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What caused LSU Football's putrid 90's run?

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Inept, parochial, cheap, good ole boy administators hired putrid coaches. That's it.

Sadly, while professionalism has supplanted much of the old cracker nepotism, the back slappin' good ole boys still rule certain aspects of the AD and the university. They are the enemy of excellence.

Unwillingness to spend.
- outdated facilities
- Discount coaches
- Bad Luck, like Bo Rein plane crash, and bad momentum.

That's why La players were going out of state. Saban was part of the turn around.

Only good coach after between Chollymac and Saban was Arnsparger.

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He actually thought he deserved a 5th year. Thank goodness only 50k showed for his last home game and they pulled the plug.

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just think he he doesn't go full retard and stopped letting Jamie Howard throw passes vs Auburn, he might have gotten it.

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Dinardo did good things but was too micro-manager

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is there a bigger micro manager than Saban?

It's really the history of Joe Dean and his failures with the football program.
If you ask his apologists they'll point to the successes of baseball, track and baseball during this time and say he was a huge success.
Thsoe other sports didn't generate any revenue, however, and the parade of poor hires as football HC is inexcusable, IMO.
Joe Dean did a lot of damage.

Never, ever, ever hire a basketball guy as AD, it is the road to hell. This especially includes Dean & Alleva.

The Board of Stupidvisors is a bunch a old MF's whose sole interest in not LSU, it is their political power and egos.

Archer was a mistake, Hallman was a disaster. We got Saban because Emmert blew past the old bastards, blew past Dean, and blew past the 'way my grandpappy did it'.

If you want to see the same mentality of old stubborn idiots that run this area try to widen I-10 between the bridge and the split. A handful of retrogressive morons who own shops near the Perkins overpass hold the whole city hostage. Need a loop? Same mentality.

Emmert broke through them, it may never happen again.