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re: Well looks like UGA is gonna hire Smart(reportedly)

Posted on 12/1/15 at 9:15 pm to
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 9:15 pm to
Kirby will be a bad hire. Muschamp part 2.
Posted by tFearIsReal
Death Valley
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 9:15 pm to
What was Richt's buyout?
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 9:15 pm to
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Waiting….patiently...
We missed that boat. They should have had him on the phone when the Fisher deal began falling apart.
Posted by SeekGreatness
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 9:21 pm to
Certainly not the current governor, but you'd be a fool to think the incoming governor's support for keeping Les had nothing to do with it. Alexander wants to keep grant money and budget money flowing, so he has to keep up his image of LSU being "poor." A $15m buyout, private or not, doesn't look good for that image.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 9:49 pm to
Well, coaching is a fluid business. Sometimes a change is good for all parties.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:45 pm to
ye ye
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:53 pm to
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do you think Mark Richt was a good coach? He was never a HC before being hired and UGA ousted a good coach. Good programs take risks and make good changes.
Totally different situation. Georgia had Jim Donnan, 40-19 in 5 seasons. That's averaging 8 wins a season, with the bowl. If you check, you will note that he won 4 bowls, so that's really averaging, basically, a 7 win regular season 5 years in a row. That is not impressive.
Richt was the wunderkid offensive coordinator at Florida St when they were the shite. Supposedly a brilliant offensive mind, plus he learned how to run a program from Bowden, who was the best of the South. And true to form, notice how many great offensive players came through that program.
Posted by Mars duMorgue
Sunset Dist/SF
Member since Aug 2015
2816 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:54 pm to
UGA is gonna get Smart? Is Agent 99 part of the deal? She hawt.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
35992 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:08 pm to
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don't understand this. Why get rid of a proven head coach, only to hire an unproven coordinator?


Cuz he's got a lotta dawg in him.
Posted by crankbait
Member since Feb 2008
11623 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 8:44 am to
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Totally different situation. Georgia had Jim Donnan, 40-19 in 5 seasons. That's averaging 8 wins a season, with the bowl. If you check, you will note that he won 4 bowls, so that's really averaging, basically, a 7 win regular season 5 years in a row. That is not impressive.


Just wanted to follow back up on this. Richt had extremely underwhelming seasons on a weak side of the conference when he should have greatly outperformed teams that he didnt. UGA parted ways with Richt in the same way as Donnan, under-performance.

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Richt was the wunderkid offensive coordinator at Florida St when they were the shite.


Kirby is the DC of the best defense the near history of CFB. I know Saban runs it, but he is still there

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Supposedly a brilliant offensive mind, plus he learned how to run a program from Bowden, who was the best of the South. And true to form, notice how many great offensive players came through that program.


Saban eats pieces of shite like Bowden for breakfast. I'd rather my coach be a Saban pedigree than Bowden, no doubt
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 8:47 am to
shite, and to think I wasted my time melting over their hiring of Hermann, the melted again when they were hiring Jimbo...
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40741 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 8:49 am to
I can't think of any former Saban Coordinators that have done well as head coaches recently. McElwain is still on the fence because he's in yr 1.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20277 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:50 pm to
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Saban eats pieces of shite like Bowden for breakfast. I'd rather my coach be a Saban pedigree than Bowden, no doubt
Didn't face each other with premier teams at the the same time. I'd venture to say that the FSU teams of the 90's would move the ball against Saban's defenses. There certainly would not be a talent mismatch.

Bowden, a "piece of shite" as you put it, had 377 official wins, with another 12 vacated. Saban has 188 wins.

Regarding coaching tree, Saban has a number of guys that went on to become head coach. Derek Dooley and Will Muschamp are among that crowd. Jimbo Fisher was actually a product of Terry Bowden, both as a QB then 10 yrs as an offensive coach. So that would seem to put him in the Bowden tree, alongside Richt.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162189 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:54 pm to
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I can't think of any former Saban Coordinators that have done well as head coaches recently.

Jimbo Fisher not ring a bell?

Like you said Jim McElwain is still relatively unknown but he seems to have done fairly well in year one.

Smart has been the DC there since 08 so it's not like there are really many to pick from.

Muschamp would be the only consensus failure and he wasn't THAT bad
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 4:57 pm
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