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DaCajun1
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re: Weird...Canada's passing offenses averaged...
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I was downvote #112. Does the fact that you got that many mean anything to you?


Up votes from your peanut gallery and team of tools would be concerning. Glad to see you and the rest of your Barnum & Bailey suckers down voting.


DaCajun1
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re: Weird...Canada's passing offenses averaged...
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Look, I am happy with the wins even if the competition has been bad, but "Air Canada" I have yet to see.


Listen to this dude.


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TigerBait2008
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re: Weird...Canada's passing offenses averaged...
You need the



Total idiot
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DaCajun1
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re: Weird...Canada's passing offenses averaged...
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Total idiot


Guys like you keep pyramid schemes in business.


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mike4lsu
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re: Weird...Canada's passing offenses averaged...
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Gets to LSU and Etling is yet to get out of teens. What's up? Too much institutional inertia from a decade of running the ball, playing to his players strength, or avoiding players weakness (or both)?


Canada is not calling anything too different from what Miles and Ensminger was calling. We just do not have the QB right now for 25-30 passes a game.


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Sailin Tiger
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re: Weird...Canada's passing offenses averaged...
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The difference is we've had absolutely no need to throw the ball


To add to this every time we have thrown the ball its been for big plays. Our Passing game has been among the most efficient in the country so far. It's too soon to say we've reached the promised land but I don't understand the bitching.


Space Cowboy
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Ulm...Canada has barely scratched the surface of his play sheet. If you are patient you will eventually see the full Canada playbook.


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Wayne Campbell
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re: Weird...Canada's passing offenses averaged...
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25 passes per game at Pitt in 2017
31 passes per game at NC St in 2016
29 passes per game at NC St in 2015

Gets to LSU and Etling is yet to get out of teens


Seems as though you struggle with the concept of averages.


SportTiger1
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re: Weird...Canada's passing offenses averaged...
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Seems as though you struggle with the concept of averages.


To get the avg up to 25-29, we would have to have most games throwing it more than that....

you think thats going to happen based on the first two games?


thunderbird1100
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re: Weird...Canada's passing offenses averaged...
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To add to this every time we have thrown the ball its been for big plays. Our Passing game has been among the most efficient in the country so far. It's too soon to say we've reached the promised land but I don't understand the bitching.



It's completely ridiculous. Anyone that was expecting 30-35 passes against BYU and UTC when we were blowing both of them out in the 3rd quarter is just plain stupid. We also are averaging 13 yards per pass attempt nearly, which is insanely high, you dont need to throw it much when you're gaining on average 13 yards per pass ATTEMPT. You run the football when you have big leads late in games. Period, end of story.
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bayou85
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2. LSU has a much better defense then Pitt and NC State


This!


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Wayne Campbell
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re: Weird...Canada's passing offenses averaged...
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To get the avg up to 25-29, we would have to have most games throwing it more than that....



What!?! You don't say!

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you think thats going to happen based on the first two games?


Maybe you should explain why I should care.


Damseyrarrar
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such lame and tired excuses


Dumbest thing I've read here in weeks. That's an amazing accomplishment.


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SportTiger1
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Member since Feb 2007
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re: Weird...Canada's passing offenses averaged...
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Maybe you should explain why I should care.


I'm not saying you should...but you were insinuating that we could still avg 25+ passes per game, so i explained why that is illogical.



Wayne Campbell
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but you were insinuating that we could still avg 25+ passes per game, so i explained why that is illogical.


I'm not insinuating anything. I'll flat out say LSU can still average 25 per game. Will they? Don't know, don't care. There's no magical per game attempts number that equates to a championship.


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DaCajun1
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Atlanta
Member since Jul 2007
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re: Weird...Canada's passing offenses averaged...
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It's completely ridiculous. Anyone that was expecting 30-35 passes against BYU and UTC when we were blowing both of them out in the 3rd quarter is just plain stupid. You run the football when you have big leads late in games. Period, end of story.


We were doing it when we had small leads. We didn't come out passing. Also, Spurrier won a national championship doing the opposite of what you said.


Tigre Diablo
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re: Weird...Canada's passing offenses averaged...
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DaCajun1 What's up?


You're dumb, and need to post less.. that's what's up.

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Too much institutional inertia from a decade of running the ball, playing to his players strength, or avoiding players weakness (or both)?



You suggesting Aleva is calling shots? Lord help us all.

Maybe... just maybe... We've been crushing inferior opponents and have no need to come out with a full force air raid attack when we are up 3 scores and forcing 3 and outs most of the second half.


slackster
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31609 posts

re: Weird...Canada's passing offenses averaged...
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Maybe... just maybe... We've been crushing inferior opponents and have no need to come out with a full force air raid attack when we are up 3 scores and forcing 3 and outs most of the second half.



To be fair, the same thing was said about Miles and Co., but then we eventually had games that showed the passing game was a legitimate problem.

I'll give Canada the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise, but there is no proof one way or the other yet.


MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
962 posts

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Passes per game don't mean much without context. Here's the run/pass stats for every season Canada has been an OC:
1997 Butler 33.2 pass (47%) 37.5 Rush (53%)

2003 N. Illinois 28 pass (40.7%) 40.75 rush (59.3%)
-Michael Turner was on this team so they ran a lot

2007 Indiana 34.3 Pass (48.4%) 36.5 Rush (51.6%)

2008 Indiana 29.8 pass (44.5%) 37.1 Rush (55.5%)

2009 Indiana 36.7 pass (54.4%) 30.8 rush (45.6%)

2010 Indiana 42.8 pass (59.6%) 29 Rush (40.4%)

2011 N. Illinois 29.1 pass (40.6%) 42.5 rush (59.4%)
-Leading rusher and passer where the same person so I'm guessing it was an option-based offense.

2012 Wisconsin 29.8 pass (39.6%) 45.4 rush (60.4%)
-Montee Ball was the RB

2013 NC State 35.5 Pass (45.1%) 43.3 rush (54.9%)

2014 NC State 29.3 pass (42.8%) 39.1 rush (57.2%)
-Even with Jacoby Brissett throwing for 2600 yards they still ran way more than passed.

2015 NC State 31.8 pass (43.4%) 41.5 rush (56.6%)
-Brissett again threw for 2600 yards but still a lot more running than throwing.

2016 Pitt 24.9 pass (37.4) 41.7 rush (62.6%)


and just for comparison:

2017 LSU 18 pass (25.9%) 51.5 rush (74.1%)

Takeaway: The total number of pass attempts if irrelevent in my eyes, it's the ratio of run to pass. The 3 years you mentioned those teams still ran the ball 58.8% of the time. He's only had 2 seasons where his offense threw more than rushed and that was at Indiana where I assume they were behind so much they had to throw more.

It's too early to tell anything about our offense yet. When you're up big, you run the ball. But, historically Canada has average 54.7% rushes per game. The outliers are seasons where he either had a stud RB (Turner & Ball) or ran an option offense (2011 NIU). We have a stud RB so I expect us to be around 60% run by season's end.





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DaCajun1
LSU Fan
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2007
616 posts

re: Weird...Canada's passing offenses averaged...
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To be fair, the same thing was said about Miles and Co., but then we eventually had games that showed the passing game was a legitimate problem. I'll give Canada the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise, but there is no proof one way or the other yet.


Intelligent people starting to trickle in to this thread. Welcome!


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