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re: We were told for years any idiot can win with the talent Miles had
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:40 pm to The Pirate King
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:40 pm to The Pirate King
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No shite. Except his offense can’t consistently win the big games and championships without a developed passing attack. Which was proven from 2008-2016.
during his tenure no program beat more ranked teams
try again dumbass
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You’re just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point to try to be right about something, even though you have no clue what you’re talking about.
says the dumbass arguing we dont have talent when i specifically post the talent youre speechless
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Just give up and move on.
give up on what? trying to convince football ignorant posters that, "yes lsu is way more talented than a team with 1 ranked season since 2010?"
yeah i probably should.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 5:41 pm
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:41 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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its pretty telling you dont mention msu's talent or the fact that they were 2 games under .500 in. sec play last year
Why are you fixated on last year? Like you posting all last week how Fitzgerald sucked because of last year. This is a new year. Young players with a year of experience get better. Novel concept, I know. You would think you wouldnt keep going back to that well when you are proven wrong over and over.
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so we dont have enough talent to not have the worst loss in lsu-msu history?
am i surprised that the game got away from a young team, a team who's older players are not as good as the guys they replaced who were in NFL training camps this summer? A game where our best Def player comes back fat and out of shape? The same game our best DL doesnt play in?
No, im not surprised. Does it suck that it happened, yea! MSU had the best player on the field, and Mullen stuck it to our young and inexperienced defense.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:45 pm to Lester Earl
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Why are you fixated on last year? Like you posting all last week how Fitzgerald sucked because of last year. This is a new year. Young players with a year of experience get better. Novel concept, I know. You would think you wouldnt keep going back to that well when you are proven wrong over and over.
We usually disagree, but you’re spot on. Voice of reason lol
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:46 pm to Lester Earl
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Why are you fixated on last year? Like you posting all last week how Fitzgerald sucked because of last year. This is a new year. Young players with a year of experience get better. Novel concept, I know. You would think you wouldnt keep going back to that well when you are proven wrong over and over.
im still waiting for you to show me where i said Fitzgerald sucked. i guess thats all you ever have in our discussion. a straw man.
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This is a new year. Young players with a year of experience get better. Novel concept, I know. You would think you wouldnt keep going back to that well when you are proven wrong over and over.
proven wrong? please provide a link where i said players dont get better with age.
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am i surprised that the game got away from a young team, a team who's older players are not as good as the guys they replaced who were in NFL training camps this summer? A game where our best Def player comes back fat and out of shape? The same game our best DL doesnt play in?
No, im not surprised. Does it suck that it happened, yea! MSU had the best player on the field, and Mullen stuck it to our young and inexperienced defense.
yeah im sure you called this being the worst beating in lsu-msu history.
do we have more talent than Mississippi state?
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:49 pm to Rickdaddy4188
We are young. The difference between this season and years past is that we are actually having to rely on our youth. In past seasons, our freshman only played if they were studs (not as common as one may think), or if the opposition was absolute shite. I hope this team rebounds. That loss was shite. Let's see what happens going forward.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:55 pm to jimmy the leg
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We are young. The difference between this season and years past is that we are actually having to rely on our youth. In past seasons, our freshman only played if they were studs (not as common as one may think), or if the opposition was absolute shite. I hope this team rebounds. That loss was shite. Let's see what happens going forward.
i agree had we lost a hard fought game where our youth was exposed late in the game. but our team quit,had zero focus from beginning to end,and played with zero passion.
im not even saying that Mississippi state loss means we are doomed. im just saying we are for sure more talented than msu and the arse kicking is on coaching. a loss can be explained away with youth. having a perennial sec doormat dominate you from beginning to end isnt attributed to us being less talented than MSU.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:55 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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do we have more talent than Mississippi state?
If you understand that players get better with age like you just said you did, then why is it so hard for you to grasp that we may be more talented than Miss St, but it doesn't exactly mean we are a better team?
If our most talented players are Freshman(truth), or didnt play (Lawrence), or was coming back fat from injury (Key), why is this so fricking hard for you to understand?
Posted on 9/20/17 at 6:01 pm to Lester Earl
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If you understand that players get better with age like you just said you did, then why is it so hard for you to grasp that we may be more talented than Miss St, but it doesn't exactly mean we are a better team?
thanks for answering. at no time did i say talent makes you a better team. coaching does that.
im sure you used this same logic in 2014 when we had 1 player make all sec and all of 4 players drafted.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 9/20/17 at 6:08 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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at no time did i say talent makes you a better team. coaching does that.
yea, or uhhhhhhh, experience, and uhhhhhh depth
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im sure you used this same logic in 2014 when we had 1 player make all sec and all of 4 players drafted.
no buddy, i am not like you. I dont make blanket statements about things just because they may seem similar. I dont say we are going to blow MSU out the water simply because we do it every year. I dont say Nick Fitzgerald wont play good against us because he didnt last year. I analyze things. I dont take the easy way and just look at the surface stuff. That is why me and you are different. That is why you embarrass yourself nearly every time you get into a discussion like this
Posted on 9/20/17 at 6:11 pm to Lester Earl
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no buddy, i am not like you. I dont make blanket statements about things just because they may seem similar. I dont say we are going to blow MSU out the water simply because we do it every year. I dont say Nick Fitzgerald wont play good against us because he didnt last year. I analyze things. I dont take the easy way and just look at the surface stuff. That is why me and you are different. That is why you embarrass yourself nearly every time you get into a discussion like this
i embarrass myself?
youre on the level of peej on here.
and of course you didnt apply this ignorant logic when you didnt like the coach.
our 2014 team was extremely young and had 4 players drafted in 2015 nfl draft.
keep being ignorant, im mean keep doing you
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I dont say Nick Fitzgerald wont play good against us because he didnt last year.
link to where i said this.
again, straw man.
and yeah you really analyzed Guice really well.
youre a joke on here and cant even tell me the 7 route without looking it up. elementary level football. things middle school football players know.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 9/20/17 at 6:19 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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i embarrass myself?
Yes, you are so hell bent on defending Les Miles. Dude I havent mentioned Les Miles once. Why do you think I am interested in discussion the 2014 team?
Im trying to deal with the facts surrounding this years teams. I made a nice long post on the last page about the pieces that we could potentially should have right now, and trying to give reason why this team may struggle, and you are sitting her trying to get into a pissing match about Les Miles and how people hurt your feelings when they talk bad about him. I dont give a shite about that.
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youre on the level of peej on here.
ah yes, nice deflection. PJ cant even form complete sentences.
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youre a joke on here and cant even tell me the 7 route without looking it up. elementary level football. things middle school football players know.
right. Go read the Miss St thread from last week and say that with a straight face
you embarrassed yourself there big timePosted on 9/20/17 at 6:21 pm to Tigerbait357
Why does it seem it was Jimbo, Herman or bust with this hire? Was it laziness ? I don't understand why the list was so short. (I know......
THE BINDER). Has this job become average?
THE BINDER). Has this job become average?
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:30 pm to anne
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when was the last time Miles had to play the entire Freshman class?
I didn't know we didn't have enough players to where we HAVE to play freshman.
Face it, O played those freshman over upperclassmen. For good or bad.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:45 pm to Tigerbait357
To be fair, O did win and blew out Petrino with the Heisman winner for the bowl victory with the same talent that Miles lost to an 8-5 Auburn team with while starting out 2-2. The most points we scored with Miles last year was 34 against Jacksonville St. Under O, the team scored 38 on SEC opponents 4 times including 50+ against aTm. He managed to blow out Ole Miss (who we were stomped by the previous year) worse than Miles ever did and blew out Arkansas at Arkansas after they had beaten us by 17 in consecutive years. If I'm being fair, with the same talent, the team performed WAY better under O than Miles. And Ed O had about the worst previous head coaching stint one could have at Ole Miss.
It remains to be seen what O will do even though he had an awful track record as a head coach previously. But LSU did lose a load of defensive talent last year along with a couple of WRs to the NFL, so it's not the same team as last year. However, they should not be 30 points worse than State.
It remains to be seen what O will do even though he had an awful track record as a head coach previously. But LSU did lose a load of defensive talent last year along with a couple of WRs to the NFL, so it's not the same team as last year. However, they should not be 30 points worse than State.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:54 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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He managed to blow out Ole Miss (who we were stomped by the previous year) worse than Miles ever did
I don't think this is true at all. Last years Ole Miss score was 38-21. Miles 2005 team bet ole Miss 40-7 and his 2011 team beat them 52-3.
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O did win and blew out Petrino with the Heisman winner for the bowl victory
The bowl victory against Petrino and Louisville was impressive, but Louisville lost their final 3 games last year. 36-10 to Houston and 41-38 to Kentucky to close out the regular season, and then the bowl game to LSU.
Miles also beat Petrino and Arkansas 41-17 in 2011 when Arkansas was ranked #3 in the polls.
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If I'm being fair, with the same talent, the team performed WAY better under ) than Miles.
I agree with you there. The team did look much better, but sometimes, replacing the head coach (or manager in baseball) lights a fire under a team and they do play better for a period of time.
I don't know how this years team will respond after last weeks beat down, but hopefully, they'll come out with new energy and string some wins together.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:00 pm to Tigerbait357
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The last three recruiting classes were top 10.
SO now theres no talent?
Don't give one simole frick what a class WAS ranked. They haven't planned out.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:38 pm to Rickdaddy4188
You realize they beat us three years ago and were ranked #1 at one point late in the season right. Yes, they have been the doormat forever...at least until recently. We are more talented, but combining that much youth with a staff Shitting the bed equals 37-7. Lets see how we respond.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 10:19 pm to earl keese
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I don't think this is true at all. Last years Ole Miss score was 38-21. Miles 2005 team bet ole Miss 40-7 and his 2011 team beat them 52-3.
Sorry, I meant at home in Tiger Stadium. Miles never beat Ole Miss by more than a TD in Tiger Stadium. Oddly enough, the 40-7 game at Ole Miss was against O.
Miles was 1-2 against Bielema and didn't beat a bad Arkansas team by even a TD. LSU blew them out last year.
This team is different because it's probably the least experienced WR group I've seen in years after losing Dural, Dupre leaving early and those other 3 WRs transferrin before last year. The WR group had challenges last year. It was bound to catch up to us. You can't lose that many WRs and not expect some challenges. The D has some very good talent, but they are very young after losing so many guys from last year's D. Throw in D-line injuries and it becomes a challenge. We need everyone healthy.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 10:53 pm to Lester Earl
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Yes, you are so hell bent on defending Les Miles
if by defending miles you mean posting objective facts then sure.
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trying to get into a pissing match about Les Miles
about miles? i mentioned all of one thing about miles. it was highlighting your hypocrisy and refusal to use the same logic on every coach.
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read the Miss St thread from last week and say that with a straight face you embarrassed yourself there big ti
embarrassed myself?
i never once said Fitzgerald sucked.
not even remotely.
straw man again.
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Go read the Miss St thread from last week a
for every stance you take and get right, there are 5 that are wrong.
and pardon me for not respecting the analysis of someone that doesnt know the 7 route is without looking it up.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 11:47 pm to jimmy the leg
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You realize they beat us three years ago and were ranked #1 at one point late in the season righ
its the only ranked finish from 2010
SEC RECORD AND WEST POSITION OF MISS ST SINCE 2011
2011- 2-6 5th
2012- 4-4 4th
2013- 3-5 5th
2014- 6-2 2nd
2015- 4-4 6th
2016- 3-5 6th
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Yes, they have been the doormat forever...at least until recently.
even recently. they have finished above 5th place in the west just 2 times since 2011.
since 2011 Miss State has finished above .500 in sec play just ONCE.
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