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re: We return the most experience in the nation
Posted on 2/9/16 at 9:28 pm to Datbayoubengal
Posted on 2/9/16 at 9:28 pm to Datbayoubengal
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It's pathetic we need pro bowl level WRs and a QB that started several NFL games as a rookie and 2nd year player just to have a good COLLEGE passing game.
The harsh truth. The offense is a wreck.
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 10:37 am to biglego
My question is why are these little trash teams like TT able to produce a passing game year after year with no resources as stated previously. (recruits, cheap coaches etc.)
If they can plug and play QB after QB and put up 300 yards a game passing, why can't LSU figure it out? They can't get the O-line recruits or the top notch running backs so they adapt and air it out. As someone else mentioned, LSU has the coaching salaries, the top WR's, the oline but can't seem to translate that into passing yards. No one is saying we have to pass for 300 yards...just need to be able to pass when the line is stuffed by future NFL dlineman.
"what did that get them" "that team sucks so who cares that they can pass"
Not the point. The point is why are there so many teams that can put up passing numbers and LSU can't. Why is LSU consistently outside the top 90 schools in passing? It's nice to lean on the run when you are blessed with guys they get, but sometimes you have to pass.
If they can plug and play QB after QB and put up 300 yards a game passing, why can't LSU figure it out? They can't get the O-line recruits or the top notch running backs so they adapt and air it out. As someone else mentioned, LSU has the coaching salaries, the top WR's, the oline but can't seem to translate that into passing yards. No one is saying we have to pass for 300 yards...just need to be able to pass when the line is stuffed by future NFL dlineman.
"what did that get them" "that team sucks so who cares that they can pass"
Not the point. The point is why are there so many teams that can put up passing numbers and LSU can't. Why is LSU consistently outside the top 90 schools in passing? It's nice to lean on the run when you are blessed with guys they get, but sometimes you have to pass.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 11:08 am to TigerB8
quote:LSU 56/162rat vs TTU 28/125.5rat.
If they can plug and play QB after QB and put up 300 yards a game passing, why can't LSU figure it out?
With hard work, one of these days maybe LSU will ascend to their level.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 11:29 am to GermantownTiger
Didn't know it was most in the nation.. Yes sir lot of talent there.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 12:06 pm to TigerB8
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My question is why are these little trash teams like TT able to produce a passing game year after year with no resources as stated previously. (recruits, cheap coaches etc.)
I've pondered this every year just about since 2008. I don't know the answer. It's one thing to have a down year or two when the QB play is subpar--every team has that. But for LSU it's chronic. Even Mett only had one good year out of THREE. This is why I think it's a fundamental scheme is issue. A college offense shouldn't require NFL QB talent to function-Bama's doesn't. And when it has NFL talent, it shouldn't require a year on the bench then another whole year on the field just to get a good third year. It's crazy.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 12:27 pm to biglego
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I don't know the answer. It's one thing to have a down year or two when the QB play is subpar--every team has that. But for LSU it's chronic.
2005 - Russell's third year in the system, second year starting
2006 - Russell's fourth year in the system, third year starting
2007 - Flynn's fifth year in the system, first year starting
2008 - Lee's second year in the system, first year starting
2009 - Jefferson's second year in the system, first year starting
2010 - Jefferson's third year in the system, second year starting
2011 - Lee's fifth year in the system, second year starting
2012 - Mettenberger's second year in the system, first year starting
2013 - Mettenberger's third year in the system, second year starting
2014 - Jennings's second year in the system, first year starting
2015 - Harris's second year in the system, first year starting
Experienced quarterbacks who have been around the program perform at a high level. Due to recruiting and retention, we haven't had that in recent years, but I'm confident that we can rely on Harris for the next two years and when McMillan takes over as a redshirt junior, we'll be in capable hands.
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A college offense shouldn't require NFL QB talent to function-Bama's doesn't.
Look at what McElroy did in 2009 or what McCarron did in 2011 and tell me how it is remarkably different than what Harris did in 2015. Alabama has been fortunate because they have had fantastic transition between their quarterbacks. McElroy's first year starting was as a redshirt junior, McCarron was a redshirt sophomore... Blake Sims and Jacob Coker were both redshirt seniors.
It's not the system that's the problem, it's not having the next guy ready that's the problem.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 12:38 pm to chilge1
I hear you. QB recruiting has been a big issue. It still seems the QBs take too long to master the system to the extent they ever do. Jennings and Harris were young, but Mett was not. Neither were JJ/JL. Although they did have the disadvantage of starting having an OC change.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 12:39 pm to chilge1
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Blake Sims and Jacob Coker were both redshirt seniors.
true, but Blake Sims was under a brand new OC when he was a first year starter. And Coker transferred in and was in his second year under Kiffin this past year, in which he also was a first year starter.
So yes, they were both RS seniors, but neither had been in the same "system" for 4 or 5 years. Sims had one year and Coker had two. And they made the playoffs and won the NC, respectively.
Would I rather have an older QB with more experience - sure. But it's not required! Young and/or inexperienced QBs can play at the highest level. Just apparently not here.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 2:25 pm to atltiger6487
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Young and/or inexperienced QBs can play at the highest level. Just apparently not here.
And that's as a result of the system we run. That much we agree on. We either need to change the offensive system to one which is friendly for young quarterbacks, or we have to develop the depth necessary to ensure that we're not trotting out a true sophomore who's being asked to lead the offense for the first time.
So here's what our depth at the position looks like heading into next year:
Brandon Harris, Junior
Anthony Jennings, Senior
Danny Etling, Redshirt Junior
Justin McMillan, Redshirt Freshman
Lindsay Scott, Freshman
And presumably we have Lowell Narcisse waiting in the wings... I won't complain if the staff decides to change the offensive identity, but I also don't think that it's necessary for better production if we can just make sure we hang onto the guys we get a L.O.I. from.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 3:24 pm to chilge1
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Young and/or inexperienced QBs can play at the highest level. Just apparently not here.
And that's as a result of the system we run. That much we agree on. We either need to change the offensive system to one which is friendly for young quarterbacks, or we have to develop the depth necessary to ensure that we're not trotting out a true sophomore who's being asked to lead the offense for the first time.
Wow. Agreement has been made. On the Rant! Pretty cool.
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