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re: Vegas line for Tiger regular season wins this year was 8
Posted on 11/16/13 at 12:35 pm to Fat Bastard
Posted on 11/16/13 at 12:35 pm to Fat Bastard
Don't worry, there were no reputable 8s available, and if were didn't last a nanosecond, as middlers would hit all Over 8 they could find to attempt a middle and/or free side attempt with the widely available 9s and handful of 9.5s that opened early on..of which the sharp money bet Under.
Kenny White, LVSC, LVH, Golden Nugget, Cantor, Pinny, CRIS, Greek,etc..never shopped LSU 2013 at 8 flat.
Kenny White, LVSC, LVH, Golden Nugget, Cantor, Pinny, CRIS, Greek,etc..never shopped LSU 2013 at 8 flat.
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 12:38 pm
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Posted on 11/16/13 at 12:53 pm to LSUANDY25
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Vegas line for Tiger regular season wins this year was 8
Not sure what you were looking at, but it was 9.5
Posted on 11/16/13 at 1:06 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
Well here it is for u non believers.
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08/06 06:13 PM 1442335765- 1 Future $40.00 $29.63 Football Futures - NCAA Regular Season Wins Over 8½ Regular Season Wins -135 for LSU regular season wins
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08/06 06:13 PM 1442335765- 1 Future $40.00 $29.63 Football Futures - NCAA Regular Season Wins Over 8½ Regular Season Wins -135 for LSU regular season wins
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 11/16/13 at 1:40 pm to LSUANDY25
8.5 and 8 are not the same thing, not by a country mile!
Which shop did you bet this? Possibly some book that dropped LSU down to 8.5s late after taking plenty of Under 9 flat action? There were a few offshore stores and some locals quoting 8.5 close to season's kickoff as to scare off the Under 9 action to elsewhere..as many/most places stayed 9 Under -$1.50ish until going OTB.
Google NCAA Season win totals 2013. I'm well aware of these prices because I shopped them hard all summer, and missed the few early available Under 9.5s, of which seemed only available in a few Vegas joints very briefly.
The largely consensus number was 9 flat -$1.10, then subsequently bet Under hard driving it to 9 Under -$1.40 to -$1.60.
Which shop did you bet this? Possibly some book that dropped LSU down to 8.5s late after taking plenty of Under 9 flat action? There were a few offshore stores and some locals quoting 8.5 close to season's kickoff as to scare off the Under 9 action to elsewhere..as many/most places stayed 9 Under -$1.50ish until going OTB.
Google NCAA Season win totals 2013. I'm well aware of these prices because I shopped them hard all summer, and missed the few early available Under 9.5s, of which seemed only available in a few Vegas joints very briefly.
The largely consensus number was 9 flat -$1.10, then subsequently bet Under hard driving it to 9 Under -$1.40 to -$1.60.
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 11/16/13 at 2:09 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
Roar
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U cant win or lose a half of a game, Country mile fella.
If LSU wins out they didnt underachieve according to Vegas. Betus and u could get that line anywhere. I never saw 9.5 and I was looking from day 1 on betus. In fact i made several bets in late May right when the lines came out. Im not going to call u a liar on your 9.5 maybe somewhere in the world there was a line like that from a reputable place like Betus. I never saw it.
I dont need to google anything, u can clearly see my bet in writing; a real bet from a reputable house. This bet was made on 8/6 3 weeks before opening day.
The entire point is that Vegas thought LSU would win between 8 - 9 regular season games. They are certainly favored to do just that.
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U cant win or lose a half of a game, Country mile fella.
If LSU wins out they didnt underachieve according to Vegas. Betus and u could get that line anywhere. I never saw 9.5 and I was looking from day 1 on betus. In fact i made several bets in late May right when the lines came out. Im not going to call u a liar on your 9.5 maybe somewhere in the world there was a line like that from a reputable place like Betus. I never saw it.
I dont need to google anything, u can clearly see my bet in writing; a real bet from a reputable house. This bet was made on 8/6 3 weeks before opening day.
The entire point is that Vegas thought LSU would win between 8 - 9 regular season games. They are certainly favored to do just that.
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 11/16/13 at 2:38 pm to TheDoc
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Would it surprise ANYONE if Lsu got gashed by manziel
Ummm, well, the dude DID win the Heisman, & set total offense records as a freshman, so, I guess...NO?
But, what's your fricking point? Are you trying to say JFF is a great player because we suck?
Posted on 11/16/13 at 2:50 pm to LSUANDY25
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I never saw 9.5 and I was looking from day 1, that wouldve been a lock under play
The professionals clip easy openers fast..they don't last long..
5Dimes Season Win Totals Openers
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reputable place like Betus
5Dimes rates over BetUS in terms of openers and/or offering props, yet both are solid.
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LSU would win between 8 - 9 regular season games.
Can be an gulf, an entire ocean in terms of season win total gambling.
Any and all LSU 9.5 was gone instantly, most all 9s(the uniform number for LSU 2013) was bet Under from -$1.10 to -$1.40 to -$1.60, I'd imagine much of any Over 8.5 belonged to bettors holding more Under 9 tickets..there was no 8 flat available..no such monster. I know one large local that quoted 8 flat, and that was just to scare off any Under action.
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U cant win or lose a half of a game, Country mile fella.
This quote alone probably explains why you are a $40 bettor, or should stay one. As the majority of the punters involved to these bets are pros, they bet the maximum nickels and dimes allowed to these small limit offerings. Those 1/2 wins are the barriers/baits BMs use to make for cutoffs/sides. LSU being available at some 9.5s, plenty of 9s, and some late 8.5s, are numbers that can be used for middling purposes..free swings for sophisticated bettors. Any 8 flats would be smushed with Over action, even for hardcore 100% Under 9.5 and 9 bettors that loved their side..thus this thread title totally false.
Preseason, LSU was 9 pt dog at Bama, 5 pt dog at UGA, 2 pt chalk at Ole Miss, with tough home games vs Fla and ATM. 9-3 was the bar for par in 2013..not 8 nor 8.5
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 11/16/13 at 2:52 pm to peopleschamp
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Did Vegas predict an Ole Miss loss
Well, I think an awful lot of people could imagine maybe losing one game "that we shouldn't". (I was at the OM game last yr.; my guess was it would be them) It's called an upset. They happen. All the time.
To most rational fans all around the country, this is accepted as being part of football. To other, more astute and knowledgeable realists, there can only ever be one reason for a loss - that Les is an idiot...
Posted on 11/16/13 at 3:42 pm to LSUANDY25
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Most "experts" thought LSU wd lose to the Gumps, then split with Ole Miss and A&M from the west and split w/ Georgia and Florida from the east at best.
How in the world did we beat Auburn?
Easy: At the time the Tigers knew they were the better team based on media. LSU got up 21, then team/coaches coasted to the win... it was clearly momentum and demonstration of how powerfull it is.
Since then, coaching has improved the Auburn Tigers team, LSU coaches have deflated our guys!!
Posted on 11/16/13 at 4:40 pm to heartbreakTiger
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pump that sunshine
And y'all keep pumping the shite.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 5:06 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
This quote alone probably explains why you are a $40 bettor, or should stay one.
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Ok roar have it your way. Why dont u post one of your "futures" on here for us to see what kinda bettor you are or should be.
U havent a clue on what type of bettor I am or should be. But you have the talking part down regarding Vegas, I will give u that. Obviously, u know your sports gaming trivia. Not sure if u actually play. Would love to see a few of your future plays. How big a boy are u?
Again, the point of the post, was to have something to measure the success or lack of success of this team to what was objectively expected. The vegas line is just one way to measure this. At least it takes the Miles hatred and personal bias out of it.
To blame the HC for such a "terrible" season of LSU football this year, is a bit much; especially when u look around and see how many other schools have already underachieved in this league. It aint easy boys, ask Urban Meyer how easy it is.
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Ok roar have it your way. Why dont u post one of your "futures" on here for us to see what kinda bettor you are or should be.
U havent a clue on what type of bettor I am or should be. But you have the talking part down regarding Vegas, I will give u that. Obviously, u know your sports gaming trivia. Not sure if u actually play. Would love to see a few of your future plays. How big a boy are u?
Again, the point of the post, was to have something to measure the success or lack of success of this team to what was objectively expected. The vegas line is just one way to measure this. At least it takes the Miles hatred and personal bias out of it.
To blame the HC for such a "terrible" season of LSU football this year, is a bit much; especially when u look around and see how many other schools have already underachieved in this league. It aint easy boys, ask Urban Meyer how easy it is.
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 11/17/13 at 12:19 am to LSUANDY25
quote:I predicted an 8 win season before the bowl game. Then gave a bowl win about a 50/50 chance at best.
Vegas line for Tiger regular season wins this year was 8
Posted on 11/17/13 at 1:25 am to LSUANDY25
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To blame the HC for such a "terrible" season of LSU football this year, is a bit much
Definitely not the HC's fault
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