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Truth about Fournette's fumbles
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:36 am
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:36 am
While many have complained about Fornette's fumbles derailing two promising drives and costing LSU points, this is extremely overblown.
First off, looking at his latter fumble, it happened on 4th down, and while frustrating, had he not made the spin move to get away that led the player to get a chance to strip the ball, he doesn't make the first down.
Again, great play by Fournette on the spin move, but without that there is no fumble and no first down anyway. It would've been a 50+ yard FG attempt otherwise.
On his other fumble, LSU had 1 first down on the drive and was near midfield. It wasn't some great drive he ruined, and LSU wasn't near scoring position at that point.
Again, they hurt, but people are overblowing the value of those fumbles.
First off, looking at his latter fumble, it happened on 4th down, and while frustrating, had he not made the spin move to get away that led the player to get a chance to strip the ball, he doesn't make the first down.
Again, great play by Fournette on the spin move, but without that there is no fumble and no first down anyway. It would've been a 50+ yard FG attempt otherwise.
On his other fumble, LSU had 1 first down on the drive and was near midfield. It wasn't some great drive he ruined, and LSU wasn't near scoring position at that point.
Again, they hurt, but people are overblowing the value of those fumbles.
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:36 am to Geauxgurt
Why the excuses?
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:37 am to Geauxgurt
Your inability to admit that LF's 2 fumbles were major reasons why the comeback occurred is baffling.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:38 am to Geauxgurt
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While many have complained about Fornette's fumbles derailing two promising drives and costing LSU points, this is extremely overblown.
No...it's not. On one of them he was literally going to score if he held onto the ball. They were the immediate difference between 37-6 and state staying alive.
It's OK, he made a few mistakes. He's great but he still makes mistakes. It's no big deal.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:38 am to Geauxgurt
It seems like you are defensive of LF7's fumbles. It's not like people are mad at him or something. It's not as overblown as you think.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:38 am to Salmon
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Your inability to admit that LF's 2 fumbles were major reasons why the comeback occurred is baffling.
This...so many are trying to explain this away. It is what it is.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:38 am to Geauxgurt
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On his other fumble, LSU had 1 first down on the drive and was near midfield. It wasn't some great drive he ruined, and LSU wasn't near scoring position at that point.
you're trying way too hard...
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:39 am to Geauxgurt
It's ok to have an LF7 fathead on the wall of your bedroom. It's not ok to act as if the fumbles were excusable.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:41 am to Chadwick
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It seems like you are defensive of LF7's fumbles.
No, he's just discounting any relevant factors in the second half to shift focus back to it all being Miles fault.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:42 am to ForeLSU
Again I am not downplaying its impact. I am stating that by trying to get the first down, Fournettr opened it up to being stripped, which was a great play by the MSU defender. I am saying that if Fournette doesn't mKe the spin, he is tackled short of the first down anyway.
Neither fumble directly have points to MSU. They drove 66 yards after the fumble to score in no time.
That all said, Les gets too much grief for yesterday too.
Neither fumble directly have points to MSU. They drove 66 yards after the fumble to score in no time.
That all said, Les gets too much grief for yesterday too.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:44 am to Geauxgurt
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Neither fumble directly have points to MSU. They drove 66 yards after the fumble to score in no time.
but they directly led to LSU not scoring 2 more TDs and making it a runaway victory.
Straight up.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:44 am to Geauxgurt
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Again I am not downplaying its impact.
You have been on a crusade since last night to do just that
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:45 am to Geauxgurt
The first fumble prevented any chance of us flipping the field on MSU.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:47 am to 7thWardTiger
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The first fumble prevented any chance of us flipping the field on MSU.
Even just this probably changes the dynamics of the 2nd half.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:47 am to 7thWardTiger
The 2nd fumble prevented LSU from going on a crushing 99 yard drive to seal the game at 30-6
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:47 am to Geauxgurt
You take the bad with the good. Unless you're LSU fans, then you're a bitch.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:49 am to Salmon
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Your inability to admit that LF's 2 fumbles were major reasons why the comeback occurred is baffling.
They definitely were.
I'm not gonna sit here and crap on LF though. The first fumble, his right knee is CLEARLY down. How they couldn't see that is beyond me.
2nd fumble was an effort fumble. Of course we don't want those to happen but in neither case was LF careless with the ball. Sometimes, the other guy makes a play.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:53 am to ShortyRob
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I'm not gonna sit here and crap on LF though.
Nobody is crapping on LF
I thought it was obvious he was down on the first one as well
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:57 am to Salmon
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Your inability to admit that LF's 2 fumbles were major reasons why the comeback occurred is baffling.
Not letting LF off the hook but he had the first down on the second fumble. We just got Rittered on the review.
Posted on 9/18/16 at 12:01 pm to Geauxgurt
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. I am saying that if Fournette doesn't mKe the spin, he is tackled short of the first down anyway
Players on almost every team make the spina should say and hold the ball. Yes good play by the defender but it was a fumble that if it doesn't happen we have a first down if not a touchdown because if he come out of that with the ball there was maybe one player to beat and he is gone.
Look Leonard is still great and one of if not the best LSU has had but his 2 fumbles stopped 2 drives that possibly get us points.
The first one he had gashes them on 2 straight plays and they were gassed.
The second one LSU had strung together good pass and run plays and had started at the 1. They had the momentum and basically start to bury State if the 4th down is converted
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