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re: Thoughts on the insane buyout

Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:50 am to
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:50 am to
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if you don't hear Saban announced as new UT coach by Wednesday, then he is likely not leaving Alabama.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:52 am to
I think Alleva is getting kick backs from Orgeron. It was all done to put more money in Alleva's pocket.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:54 am to
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where do I say that Saban will be the next coach at Texas?


It must be in the other post you apparently made that has this information that finebaum "corroborated"

Because none of the details in this:

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So, it looks like Mack is likely gone. The UT football banquet is tonight. Was told that Mack will probably announce by Sunday that he is done. Saban will not get formal offer until Mack has officially resigned. UT confident that Saban will take the job, but unsure how Alabama will react once Sexton shows Alabama what Texas has offered. Was told that there is no way that Saban would get a percentage of the Longhorn Network...more likely some type of signing bonus to front him money. My source thinks that things will move very fast after Mack's announces his retirement and that if you don't hear Saban announced as new UT coach by Wednesday, then he is likely not leaving Alabama.


are referenced in the article you linked.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 11:56 am
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:58 am to
Well,not sure I can convince you otherwise that UT was pursuing Saban. I never once said he it was a done deal. My source at UT is very well placed.

By the way, in case your reading comprehension skills are not strong, pretty sure the bit about Alleva just changing the name on the contract from Herman to O was just a joke by the writer.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:09 pm to
Not sure you can convince me Texas was pursuing Saban? Are you really trying to act like you were the only person, or one of very few, with this "information" and it wasn't openly talked about across the country at the time?

Maybe I was wrong and you didn't say it was a done deal. I'm not going to go back to through your post history. But upon re-reading what you posted, the phrase "UT confident Saban will take the job" appears. That is at least as much, if not more, a statement that Saban will be coaching at Texas as finebaum "corroborating" your information from that post by referencing literally none of those details in the article you linked.

By the way, in case your reading comprehension skills are not strong, that is a quote from an article, not something said on the radio as sarcasm.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 12:11 pm
Posted by LlyodChristmas
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:10 pm to
Aleeva and think don't deserve to be in the same sentence
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:11 pm to
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that UT was pursuing Saban.


i believe you. texas woulda been stupid NOT to pursue him
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:13 pm to
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By the way, in case your reading comprehension skills are not strong, that is a quote from an article, not something said on the radio as sarcasm.




damn! baw going right at the man himself..
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:15 pm to
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I think Alleva is getting kick backs from Orgeron. It was all done to put more money in Alleva's pocket.


THAT thought has crossed my mind.

Ed O isn't worth $3.5 million. Never has been. Nobody wants him, so he knows he lucky to even be sniffing that. Why NOT kick something back to the guy that made it all possible?
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:22 pm to
Dude, I am not sure what your point is...
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Maybe I was wrong and you didn't say it was a done deal.
yes, you were wrong. The phrase "UT confident Saban will take the job" means exactly how it reads. I only brought up Finebaum because I thought you were dogging me for suggesting that Saban to UT was a possibility. If $100 million dollars is on the table, there is always a possibility that a money-grubbing whore like Saban would seriously listen. UT obviously liked their chances (even if there was just a 50% chance he would leave Bama).

I guess I am not sure what your point was...there is nothing to corroborate Alleva not altering Herman's version of the contract for O...and the wording of that footballscoop article suggests the writer is just exaggerating for effect...
Posted by geaux99
Wamegeaux, KS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:29 pm to
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But yes. Alleva gave O that insane buyout to protect himself.


But how does O's buyout protect Alleva? Joe can still be fired by LSU. Were LSU to fire Alleva and hire a new AD, it would be expected (by all in CFB and the media) that the new AD would clean house as it relates to unsuccessful programs within the Athletic Department. Are you saying that because the buyout is so big that LSU would have a hard time finding a new AD who would want to deal with the financial mess that is LSU football, thus the school makes no move and instead waits out the first year or two of O's reign before cutting ties with both? Not trying to start a fight...I'm kind of like Chicken, just trying to explain such an incomprehensible move by a sitting AD.
Posted by Texastiger43
Houston
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:37 pm to
Buyout should have been 100K
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:38 pm to
My point seems pretty easy to understand from my first post in this thread. It's hypocritical of you to be posting that media isn't always truthful or presenting info as facts, then get mad when it's pointed out you were wrong about Saban to Texas.

Or when you laugh at footballscoop.com being used as a source, but reference a radio shock jock to backup your claim. And he didn't actually do it.

The phrase "UT confident Saban will take the job" reads as Texas was confident Saban will be its next coach. Can you really not see how that would be taken as you saying Saban will be Texas' next coach? Especially when the job involves "$100 million" and a "money grubbing whore like Saban"? So sorry if I'm not convinced I remembered incorrectly.
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:46 pm to
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It's hypocritical of you to be posting that media isn't always truthful or presenting info as facts, then get mad when it's pointed out you were wrong about Saban to Texas.
ha...show me again where I was wrong? I didn't even go out on a limb with Saban/Texas...just shared info from a good UT source..that they were confident. You are crazy...

and this is the blurb in the football scoop article that you are clinging so tightly to:
quote:

In fact, it appears they didn’t negotiate with Orgeron at all. It looks like Alleva simply applied some white-out over Herman’s name to write Orgeron’s over it, chopped the salary down by a couple million and handed Coach O a contract to sign.
this is an editorial...not a fact-based write up.

This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 12:47 pm
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79595 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:57 pm to
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But how does O's buyout protect Alleva?


Alleva's gambling that LSU won't fire him over the Orgeron hiring without firing Orgeron too. The big buyout makes doing so that much more difficult.

In other words, he's hedging his bets. It's the only explanation that makes any sense.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 1:01 pm
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79595 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:59 pm to
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Buyout should have been 0


We could've offered Yaw Yaw $750,000/yr with no buyout. What was he going to do, say no? Did he have any better offers?
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:05 pm to
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ha...show me again where I was wrong?


Do I really need to copy and paste your post again?

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just shared info from a good UT source..that they were confident. You are crazy...


So, once again, you post information from a Texas source that they are confident they are getting Saban, and you don't understand how that could be seen as you saying Saban will be the next coach at Texas?

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and this is the blurb in the football scoop article that you are clinging so tightly to:


Clinging so tightly to? You continue to miss the point.

And look, I can bold qualifiers too:

"So, it looks like Mack is likely gone."

"Was told that Mack will probably announce by Sunday that he is done.

"more likely some type of signing bonus to front him money."

quote:

this is an editorial...not a fact-based write up.


Never claimed otherwise.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79595 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:12 pm to
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Open Your Eyes


You're quibbling over something that was bandied about between 2 schools not named LSU 3 years ago...that didn't even happen.

Not sure what your point is.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 7:01 pm to
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they were confident

I take this to mean that UT was confident they were getting Saban, not that Chicken is saying that UT is getting Saban...hes basically passing on inside info that he heard from a UT source. Why are you beating a dead horse?
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