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re: this team has lost 4 out of the 5 games against top competition

Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:17 am to
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24348 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:17 am to
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The way PM coached that game pitching wise told his team and the fans how important it was.

To him not much.



Pitching gave up 3 runs in 9 innings. LSU got 3 runs in the 1st off of 1 HR and then didn't score again until the 11th. Pitching wasn't the problem.


Where do you people come from during baseball season?
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10086 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:36 am to
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Top completion? UNO is top completion now? We lost twice to a glorified high school team. He should be embarrassed.
It's midweek games and UNO RPI is actually higher than 4 or 5 of our SEC foes so you can take the bag off your head for now.
Posted by lovemytigers1
far away land
Member since Aug 2014
1021 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:14 am to
these loses to mid week games is going to come back and bite PM in the arse at end of season, too many loses adding up, maybe the game has passed PM up, need a new beginning for LSU, what's the chances of LSU hosting a super regional or even a regional at the rate PM is losing
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:46 am to
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It's midweek games and UNO RPI is actually higher than 4 or 5 of our SEC foes


Through games of March 14th, i.e. before last night's game, here is where UNO stood in RPI ranking, relative to the SEC:

#9 LSU
#14 Tennessee
#15 Ole Miss
#21 South Carolina
#32 Missouri
#38 Florida
#45 Vanderbilt
#60 Arkansas
#75 Kentucky
#88 Texas A&M
#112 Mississippi State
#117 Auburn
#133 New Orleans
#190 Georgia
#215 Alabama

Now, my opinion is that RPI rankings are ridiculous, especially early in the season, but if you are going to rely on them, as you did, then UNO does not rank ahead of 4 or 5 of our SEC foes. If they were added to the SEC, making it 15 teams, their RPI ranking is 13th out of 15.

ETA: For some odd reason, ncaa.com, which is where these RPI rankings come from, is one of those quirky sources that count the midweek exhibition practice scrimmages in the teams' overall records.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 11:36 am
Posted by theBru
South of I-10
Member since Jun 2013
5071 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:48 am to
i think the problem is that CPM doesnt read tRant...cuz if he would, we would have a perfect record...
but then he wouldnt develop any players other than his starters...
his idea of a midweek game and a lot of posters is slightly different...i think he sees it as a scrimmage...
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27345 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:58 am to
About 20 years ago or so, when LSU was winning National Championships, they used to have a rough time with Nicholls State and to a lesser extent SLU.


UNO is a quality baseball team
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9151 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:00 am to
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About 20 years ago or so, when LSU was winning National Championships, they used to have a rough time with Nicholls State and to a lesser extent SLU. 


The difference is we're no longer winning championships.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10086 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:34 am to
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UNO does not rank ahead of 4 or 5 of our SEC foes
I stand corrected.
State and Barners aren't quite as bad as I thought, but point stands UNO isn't "glorified HS baseball".
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
7318 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:38 am to
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The difference is we're no longer winning championships.



That's not the point. The point is championship teams lose mid week games
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:48 am to
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point stands UNO isn't "glorified HS baseball"


In addition, that point is even more convincing with regard to McNeese, which currently stands at #41 in the RPI.

In the games that actually count, i.e. excluding the midweek exhibition practice scrimmages, we are 10-2 with wins over (rankings reflect RPI through 3/14):

#1 Baylor
#51 Wichita State (3 wins)
#78 Maryland (3 wins)
#199 Army (2 wins)
#227 Air Force

and losses to:

#6 TCU
#7 Texas Tech
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:50 am to
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The point is championship teams lose mid week games


But not the majority of them. The worst any of our championship teams did in midweek games vs. in-state teams was 12-5. Combined, our six championship teams went 78-19 in those games. This team is 2-3 in such games so far.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 11:54 am
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9151 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:51 am to
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That's not the point. The point is championship teams lose mid week games


My point is fans didn't freak out over losing midweek games when were winning championships b/c we all knew we were still going to Omaha.

Fans now freak out b/c it may be a sign of what's to come.

Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
16624 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:52 am to
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I don't know what this team is missing but they do not look like winners to me.




This team includes many players that were a game away from Omaha last year. To say they are not winners in ignorant.

The losses this year are concerning but not to the extent of panic. It sucks to lose games meant to pad records but baseball is a long season and an incredibly streaky sport. Until we get a month into SEC play you really don't know how good the team is.

Also aside from Lange's meltdown against tcu this team has been really good in weekend games. Walker looks like a nice Sunday starter and the bullpen has several guys that have been good. Overall I would say this is a really good team that will hard to beat once the lineup and bullpen gets settled.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:54 am to
quote:

a game away from Omaha last year.


Two games, wasn't it?
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
7318 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:55 am to
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My point is fans didn't freak out over losing midweek games when were winning championships b/c we all knew we were still going to Omaha. Fans now freak out b/c it may be a sign of what's to come.



That's just a reflection of how dumb our fan base is. I can promise you half of the ignorant fricks complaining about the mid week losses don't even watch the games
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
16624 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:55 am to
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Fans now freak out b/c it may be a sign of what's to come.


What it's a sign of is the level of parity in the sport. 20 years ago nobody spent money on the sport and it drew little fan interest outside of the south and a few spots along the west coast. It's a completely different world now.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:59 am to
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Until we get a month into SEC play you really don't know how good the team is.


Even then, you don't, really. Wasn't the 2008 team that won the SEC tournament and went to Omaha sitting at 6-11-1 in the SEC through the first six weekends? All it took that team to turn things around was a 20-something game winning streak. Easy as pie.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
16624 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:04 pm to
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Even then, you don't, really. Wasn't the 2008 team that won the SEC tournament and went to Omaha sitting at 6-11-1 in the SEC through the first six weekends? All it took that team to turn things around was a 20-something game winning streak. Easy as pie.


Obviously that's not the way you hope the season goes but the better teams tend to play better April/June than they do in feb/march. If this team hits their stride and finishes with 18-20 sec wins nobody is gonna give a shite about what happened midweek in march.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:04 pm to
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And the fact that we apparently don't have the leadership or pitching depth to beat them once during the week should be a warning sign. These aren't Skip's teams.
Skip's 2000 team lost to mcneese twice in the midweek.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:35 pm to
The rant is more unreadable in baseball season than football these days.
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