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This is a 9-10 win team with the right play calling

Posted on 10/5/14 at 6:55 pm
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 6:55 pm
Despite their youth, the talent on this offense is better than half of the schools in the SEC. We have 2 outstanding receivers with some solid guys behind them, a stable of great RBs, 2 great OTs, and average interior linemen. The difference between the offenses of LSU and Ole Miss, Alabama, UGA, MSU, and TAMU is quarterback play, and the difference is not in the talent of their QBs.

In A&M's first drive this year (on the road in a hostile environment with a QB in his first start), their first 2 plays were a swing pass out to the RB (gain of 7) and a quick WR screen (gain of 11). Yes A&M has a pass heavy offense, but these are 2 of the easiest passes in football and they let Kenny Hill settle into the game. In Alabama's first game this year they were breaking in their first year QB Blake Sims, and the first play was a WR screen that went for 25 yards. Their second play was a quick hitch that went for 6 yards.

LSU set Brandon Harris up to fail with their play calling in this game. 3rd and 7 on the first drive, and we run the ball? You may not need to throw the ball a ton to win games, but you always need to have the threat of a pass. That was a direct sign to Auburn that we do not trust Brandon Harris, and we have no intention to let him make any plays. When we finally threw the ball, it was to a WR on the opposite side of the field running a pretty deep route.

Don't tell me that what we are seeing is a result of attrition to the draft. Attrition to the draft would be a 38-28 loss @ Auburn. We have incompetent play callers and every team in the SEC can and will take advantage of it.

With our offense, Dan Mullen, Gus Malzahn, Hugh Freeze, and Kevin Sumlin would be having a field day.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 6:57 pm to
You are correct sir
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 6:58 pm to
No, no it's not
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9081 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 7:00 pm to
Ok, now explain over 1100 yards given up in just 2 SEC games.


ETA: keep in mind that was w/ BOTH teams letting off the gas pedal before the 4th quarter.
This post was edited on 10/5/14 at 7:03 pm
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 7:00 pm to
Dural,Dupre, Quinn are all quality receivers. They had D Williams also before he bailed. That would have been 4 top receivers. The RB position is always loaded. You know that. The TE's aren't even used mostly even though they have quality TE's. The QB's(Jennings and Harris) are both capable QB's that are being used wrong. You put all that together and those other coaches you mentioned would be scoring at will on people.
This post was edited on 10/5/14 at 7:01 pm
Posted by GO_LSU
Bywater
Member since Aug 2005
745 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 7:00 pm to
Too depressing/didnt read
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 7:02 pm to
Did you not watch the game at all last night?

We don't have a quarterback.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 7:03 pm to
this is insane.

LSU ran the ball last night because Harris was in full panic mode and couldn't complete a pass for shite. and just how in the hell doesn't running the football set up a QB to fail? it doesn't make sense. THEY WERE TRYING TO SETTLE HIM DOWN. get something started. and we scored a touchdown setting up the long pass with the run.

then, for some inexplicably reason Harris went apeshit and was afraid of his shadow.

I am beginning to question his toughness.
Posted by Tigers4life
The great US of A
Member since May 2004
1865 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

Ok, now explain over 1100 yards given up in just 2 SEC games.


This
Posted by PG
Mandeville
Member since Sep 2012
2590 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 7:05 pm to
Bingo - the defense is very weak, cannot tackle and always out of position.
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

Ok, now explain over 1100 yards given up in just 2 SEC games.

MSU had huge plays on miscommunications, and both teams feasted on the fact that are offense can't get first downs. Its much easier to gain more yards when you have a shite ton of possessions. I'm not saying that the defense doesn't need work, but they are just as good as the defenses of MSU and Auburn. Except those teams have offenses that move the ball, get first downs, and keep pressure on the other team.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

the defense is very weak, cannot tackle and always out of position.


more than anything that happened last night, our D's inability to stop AU (or even slo them down) in the first quarter dictated the whole fricking game.

they scored on what, their first 5 possessions?
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16372 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 7:07 pm to
There is nothing amiss with either Jennings or Harris in terms of talent or toughness.

They are put in situations (game plan) where they are almost guranteed to fail.

The OP's point is one of the things OC's do with green QB's is to have a few simple passes to get the QB comfortable. We never did. NOw we have two talented QB's both playing tentative.
Posted by Tigerwaffe
Orlando
Member since Sep 2007
4975 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

This is a 9-10 win team with an experienced QB who's one of the top 3 in the conference
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72484 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

LSU set Brandon Harris up to fail with their play calling in this game.


obvious to anyone with even a speck of football sense.

Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9081 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

I'm not saying that the defense doesn't need work, but they are just as good as the defenses of MSU and Auburn.


I don't know how you can come to that conclusion. Both those teams could have put over 750 yards on LSU if they wanted to. Both Auburn and MS CLEARLY have better D-lines and linebackers than LSU...and as we all know, those front 7 are of utmost importance, especially in the SEC.
Posted by demtigers73
Coastal Club
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 7:10 pm to
Look I will explain it Barney for you, our QB's suck (how many years can JJ play) our OL sucks, LB's suck, our DL sucks and our secondary cant tackle! Our head coach is garbage and this season of 1-7 or possibly 0-8 in SEC will make it tough for the future! Brown paper bag?!
This post was edited on 10/5/14 at 7:12 pm
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
4927 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 7:12 pm to
No, it isn't. Our defensive line is bad, and I don't want to hear about the "young pup" stuff.How about Spears, Hill, Dorsey, Brockers? They were all ready to play when they were young pups. We lack talent. Rasco and Hunter are at best average. We need to find some studs in the middle now. Hopefully, Valentine and Trey L are players.The great majority of our linebackers are not SEC players. Beckwith and Alexander are about the only legit backers that we have. I do like the secondary. Our O-line is very overrated.Our tight ends are not good. I do think our running backs and receivers are good. I think Harris can be a player and Jennings a capable backup.
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 7:13 pm to
Harris was in full panic mode all night because the offensive coaches did not prepare him at all. Last week's practices should have consisted of quick passes until BH couldn't take it anymore. And if he refuses to throw it then he doesn't deserve to play. I don't care if it is incomplete, just throw the damn thing. And after the first time he passes up wide open WRs to run the ball, you chew his arse out.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
35746 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

Ok, now explain over 1100 yards given up in just 2 SEC games. 


if the offense can move the ball and score our defense is in less of a position to give up as many yards.

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