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mytigger
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Things you learned last night...

1. The defense isn't "back". What we thought was "back" was really just the result of playing against a terrible UF "O" and an MSU team that lost heart after LSU regained control of that game in the 2nd half.

2. Our ability to stop the opponent on 3rd downs, particularly in the last drive of the game is abysmal. It happened against in both our losses this year and against several last year, including Bama. It's a problem that has continued throughout Chavis' tenure.

3. Our Linebackers are too small and too slow. We have no presence of a defense past the DL.

4. Our O-line's pass protection has major issues against "stunting" DL's.

5. There still seems to be a lot of indecision as to who our starting secondary is. We have a lot of interchangeable parts. Last night Ronald Martin played over Corey Thompson, who seemed effective the last couple of weeks.

6. Coaches changed up the running backs last night, there was a lot of RB by committee with Hill, Hilliard, Blue and Magee all getting carries in the 1st quarter. This didn't make a whole lot of sense last night and still doesn't today. Is there something else going on behind the scenes causing this coaching decision?

7. This D allowed over 500 yds offense last night for what seems like at least the 4th or 5th time this season. The likelihood for losses against UA and aTm are legit. Being a 4 or 5 loss team again this year is a definite reality.

8. Imagining this team without offensive players like Mett, Hill, OBJ, Landry, Collins and Blue combined with defensive issues that aren't easily fixable is concerning for next year. Having a young team may be a problem we end up having to deal with every year.

9. Les Miles confirmed once again he is a terrible time manager. It appears to stem from his lack of situational awareness and an inability to make a quick decision and act upon it. Example, deciding to go for it on fourth down late proved wise, but not making that decision until 17 seconds was left of the play clock is inexcusable. The lack of situational awareness and knowing what he had intended to do in that situation caused doubt, moment for thought and oops... a burned timeout. Had that TO not been burned and the other not wasted at the end we could have kept 2 TO's in our pocket for the end of the game that would have left us with over a minute remaining to tie or win the game.

10. Lastly, I have no idea what it will take to get this team and program back on the right track. When your game plan is to win on talent alone and you start losing underclassmen to the NFL you've got a major problem. In addition to the technical and game management side of things I think Les needs to work his arse off to "recruit" our 3rd round and higher type underclassmen to stay in school for another year.

Just my Sunday morning rant...
This post was edited on 10/20 at 11:47 am



Kcrad
LSU Fan
Slidell
Member since Nov 2010
14479 posts

re: Things you learned last night...
Our coaching staff is letting the players down.


CanIPlay636
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Member since Sep 2010
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re: Things you learned last night...
Well stated.


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The Sockster
LSU Fan
Grayslake, Illinois
Member since Oct 2006
960 posts

re: Things you learned last night...
If Mett didn't throw 3 interceptions in the red zone we would have won easily.

We can't stop the run.

On many occasions, instead of wrapping up the runner for no gain, our guys go for the big hit and allow the runner to gain 3 to 5 extra yards .


Tiger Baiter
LSU Fan
Oklahoma
Member since May 2006
322 posts

re: Things you learned last night...
quote:

1. The defense isn't "back". What we thought was "back" was really just the result of playing against a terrible UF "O" and an MSU team that lost heart after LSU regained control of that game in the 2nd half.

2. Our ability to stop the opponent on 3rd downs, particularly in the last drive of the game is abysmal. It happened against in both our losses this year and against several last year, including Bama. It's a problem that has continued throughout Chavis' tenure.

3. Our Linebackers are too small and too slow. We have no presence of a defense past the DL.

4. Our O-line's pass protection has major issues against "stunting" DL's.

5. There still seems to be a lot of indecision as to who our starting secondary is. We have a lot of interchangeable parts. Last night Ronald Martin played over Corey Thompson, who seemed effective the last couple of weeks.

6. Coaches changed up the running backs last night, there was a lot of RB by committee with Hill, Hilliard, Blue and Magee all getting carries in the 1st quarter. This didn't make a whole lot of sense last night and still doesn't today. Is there something else going on behind the scenes causing this coaching decision?

7. This D allowed over 500 yds offense last night for what seems like at least the 4th or 5th time this season. The likelihood for losses against UA and aTm are legit. Being a 4 or 5 loss team again this year is a definite reality.

8. Imagining this team without offensive players like Mett, Hill, OBJ, Landry, Collins and Blue combined with defensive issues that aren't easily fixable is concerning for next year. Having a young team may be a problem we end up having to deal with every year.

9. Les Miles confirmed once again he is a terrible time manager. It appears to stem from his lack of situational awareness and an inability to make a quick decision and act upon it. Example, deciding to go for it on fourth down late proved wise, but not making that decision until 17 seconds was left of the play clock is inexcusable. The lack of situational awareness and knowing what he had intended to do in that situation caused doubt, moment for thought and oops... a burned timeout. Had that TO not been burned and the other not wasted at the end we could have kept 2 TO's in our pocket for the end of the game that would have left us with over a minute remaining to tie or win the game.

10. Lastly, I have no idea what it will take to get this team and program back on the right track. When your game plan is to win on talent alone and you start losing underclassmen to the NFL you've got a major problem. In addition to the technical and game management side of things I think Les needs to work his arse off to "recruit" our 3rd round and higher type underclassmen to stay in school for another year.

Just my Sunday morning rant...


Well stated. I agree 1000%


Champagne
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re: Things you learned last night...
Good, long and thoughtful post, mytigger.


mytigger
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seinfeldtiger
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San Diego
Member since Sep 2009
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re: Things you learned last night...
I learned that we do not gameplan on offense or defense. We just run and call plays based on what we do, not what's presented to us.


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TIGRLEE
LSU Fan
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
24554 posts

re: Things you learned last night...
Ole miss likes shitty arse piped in rap music more than LSU does.


Kcrad
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Slidell
Member since Nov 2010
14479 posts

re: Things you learned last night...
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Lastly, I have no idea what it will take to get this team and program back on the right track. When your game plan is to win on talent alone and you start losing underclassmen to the NFL you've got a major problem. In addition to the technical and game management side of things I think Les needs to work his arse off to "recruit" our 3rd round and higher type underclassmen to stay in school for another year.



This, oh my God this.


Will2nd
LSU Fan
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
1744 posts

re: Things you learned last night...
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3. Our Linebackers are too small and too slow. We have no presence of a defense past the DL.


Disagree with size argument. It was more about talent. We got better Mike LB play filling the gaps and from sideline to sideline when Louis came in to the game. Where could we have been if he started to begin the season?


canyon
LSU Fan
Lower Keys/Coloweedo
Member since Dec 2003
4713 posts

re: Things you learned last night...
Holy shite that was horrendous
That and hotty toddy bout made me choke myself


Will2nd
LSU Fan
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
1744 posts

re: Things you learned last night...
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5. There still seems to be a lot of indecision as to who our starting secondary is. We have a lot of interchangeable parts. Last night Ronald Martin played over Corey Thompson, who seemed effective the last couple of weeks.


This is a real head-scratcher.


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diehardfan
LSU Fan
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2005
4884 posts

re: Things you learned last night...
More people will be forced to face the truth about our head coach.


LSUTIGER16
LSU Fan
Pensacola, FL
Member since Oct 2005
165 posts

re: Things you learned last night...
My life is better when I don't watch the game with my husband


Kcrad
LSU Fan
Slidell
Member since Nov 2010
14479 posts

re: Things you learned last night...
canyon, I'm just glad I didn't go to the game.


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LSUTIGER16
LSU Fan
Pensacola, FL
Member since Oct 2005
165 posts

re: Things you learned last night...
That was posted by my wife, BTW. She has never liked watching games with me. I can't stand losing--especially to Ole Miss--that is what I relearned last night.


LSUGoo
LSU Fan
Member since Jul 2009
790 posts

re: Things you learned last night...
Outside of the picks in the first half that gave a team confidence to be on the field with us..
Our D Line gets no pressure and we have a limited rotation..depth is a big issue..
open field tackling his horrible...with the exception of Kwon..
Hawkins needs work on the OLine..


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lil 7thward
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
ATL
Member since Jan 2012
1586 posts

re: Things you learned last night...
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Our O-line's pass protection has major issues against "stunting" DL's.
I noticed this in the Bama game last year.


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rantfan
LSU Fan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
4881 posts

re: Things you learned last night...
Our team just isnt that good right now. It happens


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