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The SEC office needs to make the call on tiebreakers given the new scenarios.

Posted on 10/7/16 at 1:51 pm
Posted by Watchmaker
Member since Aug 2016
768 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 1:51 pm
If the SEC rules that, for example, a 6-1 LSU team wins the West over a 7-1 Alabama team, no problem on our end. We're alive as much today as we were had we played tomorrow.

Tennessee, on the other hand, could possibly be screwed with this decision. Florida gets healthy and wins out at 6-1. Tennessee finishes 6-2 with the head to head over Florida. What happens? Who has more stroke in the office? We need to know soon. The players should know what is as stake, today.

Somebody gets screwed either way. I don't want to be forced by the SEC to cram our schedule just to get an easy way out, as usual. Be strong, Joe.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
11904 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 1:57 pm to
7-1 vs 6-1 and 7-2 and 6-1 are not ties one team in each situation has a better record.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61747 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 1:59 pm to
There is 0 chance anyone in the SEC votes to allow a 6-1 team to be slotted ahead of a 7-1 team. It just won't happen.

This should have been made clear on Tuesday and Wednesday and not allowed to get to this point.
Posted by Tiger Nation 84
Member since Dec 2011
36513 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 2:00 pm to
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7-2 and 6-1 are not ties one team in each situation has a better record.




Not sure if serious.

Who is playing 9 SEC games this year?
This post was edited on 10/7/16 at 2:00 pm
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5961 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 2:02 pm to
It's a cluster flock.
What if you make each of the remaining 4 games for LSU and Florida worth 1.25 games? So everyone could possibly be on even footing at the end. A loss hurts more but winning out makes it even..
I dunno.
Posted by Mac
Forked Island, USA
Member since Nov 2007
14656 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 2:11 pm to
Have the winner of each division determined by the divisional record instead of conference record, i.e., the only conference games that matter for determining who makes it to Atlanta are games against schools in the West.
Posted by Watchmaker
Member since Aug 2016
768 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

Have the winner of each division determined by the divisional record instead of conference record, i.e., the only conference games that matter for determining who makes it to Atlanta are games against schools in the West.


I like this idea best. It would give them an out, but would Foley allow it? Who is wearing the pants at the SEC.
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5961 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

Have the winner of each division determined by the divisional record instead of conference record, i.e., the only conference games that matter for determining who makes it to Atlanta are games against schools in the West.


Yeah. I thought this too. but it basically makes all remaining cross divisional games meaningless.
The only fair way, I see, without playing the game, is to weight games for LSU and Florida. Either the remaining SEC games for both teams are worth 1.25 games. Or the cross divisional games played for both teams are worth 2.0 (which is definitely a disadvantage for UF).
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3735 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 2:21 pm to
LSU did what they were supposed to. Offered everything within reason.

Alabama is going to SECCG, I just hope a two loss east team gets lucky and bears them. Playoff committee then leaves SEC out.

Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5961 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

quote:

Have the winner of each division determined by the divisional record instead of conference record, i.e., the only conference games that matter for determining who makes it to Atlanta are games against schools in the West.


I like this idea best. It would give them an out, but would Foley allow it? Who is wearing the pants at the SEC.


Lol. If you think Florida did this to catch up with Tennessee do you think they'll be fine with nullifying two (very) potential losses?
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
11947 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 2:39 pm to
Since an sec game isn't being played that affects both divisions, it should be fewest sec losses first. Then head to head.
This post was edited on 10/7/16 at 2:40 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40087 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 2:43 pm to
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There is 0 chance anyone in the SEC votes to allow a 6-1 team to be slotted ahead of a 7-1 team. It just won't happen.


So you support LSU getting screwed in favor of Bama?
Posted by LSUTIGERS8181
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2012
9982 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 2:49 pm to
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So you support LSU getting screwed in favor of Bama?

It's just a fact. How you got that they supported it is beyond me.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10593 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 2:51 pm to
You can't change a rule in the middle of a season. The rule is working as designed. In case team(s) don't play the same number of games for any reason, it is worded that the team with the best winning percentage advances.
Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
28275 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 2:51 pm to
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So you support LSU getting screwed in favor of Bama?


Didn't say he supports it. It's just how it would work. A 7-1 team will go to ATL over a 6-1 team regardless of head to head. 7-1 has a better win percentage. Pretty cut and dry.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
39850 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

Have the winner of each division determined by the divisional record instead of conference record, i.e., the only conference games that matter for determining who makes it to Atlanta are games against schools in the West.


Yup.

If not, why is ATL not the top 2 records instead of the two div champs?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40087 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 3:20 pm to
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You can't change a rule in the middle of a season.


Yeah you can. It just takes a vote, and that is where Joe Alleva and F.King Alexander pull out all of the stops to get the rule changed.

quote:

The rule is working as designed. In case team(s) don't play the same number of games for any reason, it is worded that the team with the best winning percentage advances.


No its not working as designed. Even Joe Alleva admitted there was no plan or procedure in place for this situation. How can a rule be working as designed if it wasn't meant for this situation?

Posted by lsufan31
MS
Member since Mar 2013
2176 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 3:22 pm to
This year, head to head results should matter more than winning %. If we win out, and get left out of the SECCG- there will be so much trolling by every other SEC teams fans that it will be unbelievable.
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