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mpwilging
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The real problem with Etling...
When he is in a well-protected pocket, he throws with some zip and quite good accuracy. When he is forced out and on-the-run, he is wildly inaccurate.

With our O-line, he's often running for his life it seems...


R11
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re: The real problem with Etling...
Last year he didn't seem to be tuning for his life and he looked fine.
He looks fine this year when his oline does just an avg job blocking.


This should tell people something.


TigerFanNKaty
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re: The real problem with Etling...
There isn't a QB playing in College or Pro that can consistently throw accurate passes when facing constant pressure from different sides nearly every play.


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The Mick
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re: The real problem with Etling...
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With our O-line, he's often running for his life it seems...
He also has happy feet and runs himself into trouble a lot of times. He needs to trust the pocket a bit more imo. Pocket presence/awareness. (not saying our Oline doesn't have problems, just pointing out my personal observations).


AlxTgr
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re: The real problem with Etling...
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he is wildly inaccurate.

Nah


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RichJ
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re: The real problem with Etling...
LOL, would you TRUST a pocket with our offensive line???



liquid rabbit
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re: The real problem with Etling...
Slow-developing plays are the problem. We need a fast, short passing game. Then the protection issues become moot. Or mute, as the case may be.


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LosLobos111
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re: The real problem with Etling...
Etling himself isn't the problem

The playcalling and OLine are



Rougarou13
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re: The real problem with Etling...
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would you TRUST a pocket with our offensive line???


Touché


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I20goon
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re: The real problem with Etling...
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The real problem with Etling...
I would say reading the field, not just read-to-react time. snap-read-react time. I.e., finding the WR and then making a timely throw (without hesitating, throw him open instead of waiting till open). Some of that is "chemistry" and his trust in his WR, some of it is indeed on him.
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Slow-developing plays are the problem. We need a fast, short passing game. Then the protection issues become moot. Or mute, as the case may be.
IF I'm right about what his major problem is (above), he might not be capable of running that offense; at least passing in it to be effective enough.
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He also has happy feet and runs himself into trouble a lot of times. He needs to trust the pocket a bit more imo. Pocket presence/awareness. (not saying our Oline doesn't have problems, just pointing out my personal observations).
Yep. He does have decent pocket awareness (better than Mett). But when he does fail at it, he does make it worse many times. In fact, he's the opposite of Mett. Mett would just get blowed up because he didn't feel pressure period. Etling feels it "wrong"; he feels it's coming from one place when it's coming from another... sometimes. He does do a good job of not running backwards (making it 10x worse) and keeping his eyes downfield. I'll give him credit for that.


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taf
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re: The real problem with Etling...
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Etling himself isn't the problem

The playcalling and OLine are



It's true that the OL and play calling haven't done him many favors, but Etling does need to get better at
1) identifying/reading the blitz
2) checking out of long-developing play action and deep drops when appropriate
3) finding hot reads and delivering the ball quickly
4) stepping up in the pocket when pressure comes from the edge


TaderSalad
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re: The real problem with Etling...
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The real problem with Etling...



Thats a problem with 95% of college QBs. Hell, some professional guys cant do that.


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Haughtonboy
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kansas
Member since Nov 2011
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re: The real problem with Etling...
There is one knock on Elting. He could get rid of the ball faster. That's it.

He's a warrior. I like his pocket awareness. I like his decision making. I like his accuracy...and I like his arm strength.

What I don't fricking like is his protection.

And this has everything to do with attrition.
Attrition that the current staff is attempting to manage in spite of the FACT that they did not create it.


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Havoc
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re: The real problem with Etling...
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He also has happy feet and runs himself into trouble a lot of times.

No he doesn't.


tigers1956
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Member since Oct 2008
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re: The real problem with Etling...
Tigers need shorter routes and better recievers...with an occasional pass up the middle or down field...our o line needs to improve for our run game to get better...


1badboy
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re: The real problem with Etling...
He will also run for the rest of the season, because none of the line could block me!


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rilesrick
Member since Mar 2015
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re: The real problem with Etling...
It hasn't been seen by most yet but in the scrimmages I attended Brennan throws well on the move. The shear arm strength allows him to deliver the ball more accurately with his feet not set. It will all be revealed before the seasons out. 3/4 wide exclusively out of the shotgun will be our identity by mid October imho


Tigerfan53
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Member since Nov 2010
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re: The real problem with Etling...
The biggest problem with him really is he doesn't know how to check the ball down after his first option. Brennan did that well last week


BayouCowboy
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Shreveport
Member since Dec 2012
1465 posts

re: The real problem with Etling...
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When he is in a well-protected pocket, he throws with some zip and quite good accuracy. When he is forced out and on-the-run, he is wildly inaccurate. With our O-line, he's often running for his life it seems...

I would say that is the same issue for most QBs. The problem is that a lot of pressure is coming up the middle and the pocket is getting pushed back. When a QB can't step into his throws he will struggle.

Problem 2 is that our WRs struggle with separation and have difficulty getting a release from jam/bump and run. Their timing is easily disrupted and they don't turn their head in time as the ball arrives.

Problem 3 is WRs running the wrong routes. Etling mentioned this but diplomatically tried not to throw the WRs under the bus.

Problem 4 is Canada is not gameplanning properly to mitigate our OL deficiencies, the WR youth and maximizing Etling's skill set. Quick passes. WR screens from motion. More RB screens. Despite all the motions I'm not seeing much imagination or diversity in the receiver routes.


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ole man
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Member since Nov 2007
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re: The real problem with Etling...
Etling isn't the problem


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