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re: The offense will finally shake off the chains from the GC/JL/JJ era in 2013.....

Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:35 am to
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:35 am to
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That pick against Alabama in OT, to me, sort of set the tone for every season we've played since then, always dreading when the next mistake might come, and convinced our QB play couldn't win games for us against good defenses.


You might be on to something here.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 11:45 am to
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Defense was THE problem. Lee was the only reason LSU had any chance against all teams except Tulane


You are an idiot if you really believe the LSU defense caused Lee to thrown more ints than TDs and the most pick6s in LSU history.

A lot of QBs in LSU history have been put in a bad situation, but only one of them threw more ints than TDs and more pick6s in one season than any other SEC QB who ever played.

The LSU defense sucked that year, but Lee made the terrible decisions on when and who to try to get the ball to that resulted in opposing DBs dancing in our endzone like never before or since.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 12/11/12 at 3:12 pm to
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You might be on to something here.




I know that's how I've felt, and also a lot of my friends and family that I discuss LSU football with.

It would make sense that our coaches may have felt the same way and designed gameplans and call plays to limit the opportunity for those QBs to make those mistakes that we all dreaded and felt were right around the corner.

It's fitting IMO that we finally felt that weight lifted against Alabama.

For me, when Mett threw that TD to Jarvis, I felt a sense of confidence I hadn't felt since Lee threw that pick in the endzone in OT in 08.

Losing the game was disappointing obviously, but seeing Mett in command and attacking that D so aggressively and effectively truly closed the book on the GC/JL/JJ era for good in my eyes.

Looking forward to seeing how Mett leads us into the next era starting in 2013.

This post was edited on 12/11/12 at 3:19 pm
Posted by Commando
Never Never Land
Member since Jan 2009
2810 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 3:33 pm to
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I'm tired of hearing about how next year is the year the offense explodes


This

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I've just accepted that we will have a ho hum offense and rely on a great defense to win games


Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39039 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 3:34 pm to
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I'm tired of hearing about how next year is the year the offense explodes.


Okay, this was the year the offense exploded. It started with Bama. What you saw from halftime of the Bama game was a very good offense. It will keep getting better.
Posted by lsueddie18
Jacksonville Florida area
Member since Mar 2012
438 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 5:31 pm to
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I agree,the offense needs to step for us to be a great team next year.

Toss dive on 3rd and 3 into a ten man front. I call this one from my sofa numerous times every time our team plays, and lo and behold, the coach is always reading my mind! In effect, I'm actually the OC. So now you know who is calling the plays.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 6:12 pm to
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This year the fans unrealistically expected a QB who had never started a SEC game to be a Heisman contender from day one.


Unrealistic? Johnny Football did it with 2 years less experience.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10086 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:39 pm to
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2008 was on Miles' defensive choice.
Hate to shoot your theory full of holes, but 8 of Lee's 16 Ints were thrown when tied or ahead and 8 thrown when behind.
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And no one can even begin to complain about the 2011 offense,until we reverted to JJ

I'm not saying JJ = JFF, but the 3 highest total O performances of 2011 came from the period you just posted....which also included the game with highest passer RAT and a 100% completion rate.

In fact, I doubt there has ever been a stretch of 4 games with 24 point or greater margins of victory in LSU history.
With 3 of those 4 games vs SEC opponents and one being a SECCG, this period has to be one of the more noteworthy "revertings" in SEC history.

Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:42 pm to
I'd like to argue this but when JJ left, his play died along with it in my memory.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10086 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:03 pm to
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I'd like to argue this but when JJ left, his play died along with it in my memory.

Yea, I didn't bring it up, and even ignored the post first time.
Then it got bumped and it's like shaking a brush hog in the face of a bass.

What are you gonna argue anyway? You ain't got nuthin.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36647 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:12 pm to
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For those who are convinced Miles is such a big 10, ground and pound guy who hates creativity, why has he hired Crowton, Gonzales, Stud, and Krag as assistants in his time at LSU???? None of them are from the type of run only mentality that people claim Miles to want. The fact is after two of our most exciting offenses in LSU history under Miles in 06 and 07 we had to shut down the O after the pick six fest in 08 because we had an OC and two quarterbacks that made each other worse and began a cycle of steadily declining performance. Things got a bit better in 2011 with a new perspective from Krag before running into great Ds in Bama and Georgia, which those 2 QBs after their regressions under Crowton simply weren't capable of attacking successfully (especially twice). This year the full O scheme never got a truly fair shot to be showcased due to a WR corps that lacked explosiveness and consistent catching especially early on, and an in-season collapse of the OL due to injury and attrition that would have likely destroyed ANY other teams chances of having ANY success, but somehow our coaches and young players on the OL salvaged it. All this while breaking in a new QB with an ungodly amount of hype almost impossible to live up to, and not much mobility who had to learn how to recognize pressure in the SEC behind a work in progress OL. This could have been a DISASTER, but we won 10 games and threw for more yards down the stretch than we have in years, beginning against Alabama. This O is going to be exceptional next year, the way it was in 06 and 07 when we had an SEC level QB, and anyone who can't see that should bookmark this and we'll revisit this in a year and see who's right.
wow
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:59 pm to
Loving this thread
Posted by houstontigergirl
Member since Mar 2009
20 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:12 pm to
All I can say is thank goodness for Chavis and his defense. They are the only reason we've done as well as we have. Our offense doesn't even exist--coaches are to blame in every respect. No excuses -- they get paid way too much for this.
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7673 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:15 pm to
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Tiger Voodoo
Posted by athletemed
The Woodlands, Texas
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by Enfuego
Uptown
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:33 pm to
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Tiger Voodoo


Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7673 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:35 pm to
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Sorry Les,
i agree and like your post, except for the expectation.

les has led lsu thru some of the most extra-ordinary times of any football coach. if EVERYTHING stays perfect, i'm sure we will do ok, but that is not based on the past.

stay in the moment.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
21782 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:37 pm to
Thanks for bumping dude!!

I'll be sure to bump again after 2013 and we'll all see where we are.

Maybe I'll go back and bump all the threads from the bitches in our fan base from 08-09 saying Miles would never beat Saban or Meyer ever again and would never win the SEC again under him.

I would do that, but there would be too many to go through.

2013
This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 2:42 pm
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66385 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:37 pm to
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The offense will finally shake off the chains


As is said after every year.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:45 pm to
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