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Tell the Truth Monday - Non PC version...

Posted on 9/18/17 at 12:40 pm
Posted by JakeRStephenes
Member since Feb 2012
2571 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 12:40 pm
The real elephant in the room is the state of college football and how it is dealt with. First, let me state that I am over 50, which makes me more of a traditionalist. For example, when I see one of our DBs pull out the Dikembe Mutombo after making a routine play, down 30 points, I cringe. I also prefer to use the word “thuggery” instead of the millennial “swagger”. Arden Key mixing it up before the game is not a good look for LSU or college football. College football is merely a microcosm of our society, which promotes social promotion over responsibility, participation trophies over competition, and safe spaces over free speech. What this creates in college football are entitled and coddled kids, and let’s face it, very few mensa candidates.

Now let’s discuss the other elephant, Nick Saban, and why he is the most successful coach in college football. He has figured out the 2 most important aspects of coaching today’s football athlete. First, these kids needs a parent who parents, not a parent as a friend. Through responsibility and accountability (some may say fear), Saban lets his players know exactly what is expected. Second, Saban has also understood how to deal with the “lower than average IQ” player of today. Saban doesn’t go to complicated defensive schemes or multiple shifts to confuse defenses. His main recruiting emphasis is the trenches, for if you dominate up front, there is no need for complexity to win. LSU boasts having the most players on NFL rosters, but what percentage of them are skilled players? I’m sure if you compared the number of lineman in the league, you would probably find a different picture.

So where does this leave Coach O? Simple – 1) 100% focus on recruiting the “big uglies”, period. We will always get our share of the skilled guys, 2) Stop acting like these boys’ friend and prepare them to be men.

Flame away!
Posted by Cassius
Member since Sep 2017
105 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 12:50 pm to
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College football is merely a microcosm of our society, which promotes social promotion over responsibility, participation trophies over competition, and safe spaces over free speech. What this creates in college football are entitled and coddled kids, and let’s face it, very few mensa candidates.


Yea, I bet you never played a down of college football. You're kind of a condescending a-hole here.

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First, these kids needs a parent who parents, not a parent as a friend. Through responsibility and accountability (some may say fear), Saban lets his players know exactly what is expected. Second, Saban has also understood how to deal with the “lower than average IQ” player of today. Saban doesn’t go to complicated defensive schemes or multiple shifts to confuse defenses.


You have skewed view about the intelligence of football players. There is a lot more going on schematically at Alabama than just lining up. To hear you talk about players this way is a bad reflection on you.

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So where does this leave Coach O? Simple – 1) 100% focus on recruiting the “big uglies”, period. We will always get our share of the skilled guys, 2) Stop acting like these boys’ friend and prepare them to be men.


Why do you think we have lost 5 o-lineman since January? Coach O is making them go to class and be accountable. Coach O is a disciplinarian in his own right. Post is straight garbage.
Posted by JakeRStephenes
Member since Feb 2012
2571 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 1:00 pm to
This isn't a Trash O post. The jury is still out on whether he will have success.
Posted by BBJ
BR
Member since Apr 2012
1365 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 1:03 pm to
That post is way to grounded and intelligent for tigerdroppings. Might want to move to a pay site
Posted by Coach D
Member since Oct 2010
1734 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 1:05 pm to
100% Agree...

Oh, and #NotMyCoach
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84581 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 1:05 pm to
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Why do you think we have lost 5 o-lineman since January? Coach O is making them go to class and be accountable. Coach O is a disciplinarian in his own right. Post is straight garbage.





Sure he is, that's why the ones who haven't left or gotten suspended are leading us to 10-11 penalties a game.
Posted by lesgeaux
Member since Jul 2008
3357 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 1:11 pm to
Trenches. Period.

We got away from recruiting big uglies several years back and it finally began catching up with us around 2013 against Alabama and then weaker and weaker teams like Arky '14&15, Miss State '17 ever since.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 1:12 pm
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2159 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 1:31 pm to
There is a lot to be said about your post, but mainly, I think you are over simplifying Saban's defensive schemes. The offense may look straightforward, but the defense is anything but. There is a lot going on there other than lining up and tackling the ball carrier.


While there are a chunk of players at major D1 schools who aren't classroom smart, I'd venture most are football smart and can keep up with a thick play book if given some time.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17129 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 1:32 pm to
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For example, when I see one of our DBs pull out the Dikembe Mutombo after making a routine play, down 30 points, I cringe.


Dude I said the EXACT same thing. I was livid when I saw that.
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
12518 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 1:38 pm to
Great post. Upvote!


Posted by JakeRStephenes
Member since Feb 2012
2571 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:08 pm to
Has O mentioned any discipline plans?
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
20937 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:09 pm to
Stop adopting stupid USC slogans for a day.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:22 pm to
I agree TOO MUCH SHOW .. all about ME.

Imagine if a proffessional started yelling and dancing each time he did what he is supposed to be doing in the first place.

DO YOUR JOB,
BE PROUD OF IT.

CELEBRATE THE VICTORY,
NOT THE INDIVIDUAL PLAYS.
.. how many times have I seen someone celebrating having made a tackle .... after the runner made 7 yards ?????
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