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TAF... WTF?
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:33 am
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:33 am
You would think they would have their own voice and leadership, but its like we never hear from "TAF" as a group, through leadership, or a spokesperson.
They are a lobbying power with funds, boosters, and influential members - you would think they have a say, a large one.
How are they feeling right now?
WTF TAF
They are a lobbying power with funds, boosters, and influential members - you would think they have a say, a large one.
How are they feeling right now?
WTF TAF
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:35 am to AnotherRound
I would imagine they are not complete buffoons like our Athletic Director -- who is about as incompetent at PR as Cam Newton.
They would likely effect change behind the scenes.
They would likely effect change behind the scenes.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 8:36 am
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:36 am to WavinWilly
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They would likely effect change behind the scenes.
This. They are a fund-raising arm. Not a political action group.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:37 am to AnotherRound
The TAF isn't going to affect change with words. They're going to do it with the checkbook, or lack thereof in this particular case.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 8:38 am
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:37 am to AnotherRound
I believe this has been posted many, many, many time.
TAF is pissed, and has been for since the man was hired.
I'm a member (just like any other season ticket holder) and all of the other members i know are pissed. Not every member of TAF has as big of a voice, IE pocket book, as some of the big dogs. At the end of the day, it's still Alleva's call as the AD. We can jump up and down and scream all we want. The big money boosters aren't going to publically say anything because most of them are politicians and/or business owners.
ETA: as posted by another poster above, TAF's biggest power is money. Some of those guys donate more than O's buyout. Piss enough of them off and he'll be gone before he can flip to page 2 of that fricking binder.
TAF is pissed, and has been for since the man was hired.
I'm a member (just like any other season ticket holder) and all of the other members i know are pissed. Not every member of TAF has as big of a voice, IE pocket book, as some of the big dogs. At the end of the day, it's still Alleva's call as the AD. We can jump up and down and scream all we want. The big money boosters aren't going to publically say anything because most of them are politicians and/or business owners.
ETA: as posted by another poster above, TAF's biggest power is money. Some of those guys donate more than O's buyout. Piss enough of them off and he'll be gone before he can flip to page 2 of that fricking binder.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 8:40 am
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:39 am to AnotherRound
TAF is more Beta than JA. If they had any stroke we wouldnt be here.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:40 am to LSUGoose
quote:
They would likely effect change behind the scenes.
Yes obviously, but there are big boosters that are part of TAF and they should have power, but doesn't seem so.
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hey are a fund-raising arm. Not a political action group
When you have funds, you are political - nature of the beast.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:45 am to AnotherRound
TAF, a private funding organization to a regulated industry (CFB being the industry, NCAA being the regulatory body) needs to, and has to, in most if not all cases remain in the background AND know where the lines are drawn.
If you know or were to meet Perry (or Maj. Gen. Richard) you'd probably walk away with confidence that they know those lines and how to effect changes within those boundaries.
TAF = Boosters. Boosters run amok are just as big of program killers as any HC or AD.
If you know or were to meet Perry (or Maj. Gen. Richard) you'd probably walk away with confidence that they know those lines and how to effect changes within those boundaries.
TAF = Boosters. Boosters run amok are just as big of program killers as any HC or AD.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:45 am to ibleedprplngld
quote:
AF's biggest power is money. Some of those guys donate more than O's buyout. Piss enough of them off and he'll be gone before he can flip to page 2 of that fricking binder.
See, this is what makes sense, yet if you think through the last couple of years, TAF just doesn't have the leadership and balls that they should - plan and simple.
Took 2 firings of Les, add in 3-4 years prior of disgruntlement, then O gets hired... I see no influence from the money.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:49 am to adamb2151
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TAF is more Beta than JA. If they had any stroke we wouldnt be here.
This is somewhat true. There's a difference between us and schools like Bama. They don't put up with this bullshite. The Red Elephant Club might be composed of a bunch of mouth-breathing, non-alum inbreds, but they you know where they stand. They also have a Board Of Supervisors that recognizes the importance of athletics to funding. Our BOS is filled with a bunch of morons.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:57 am to AnotherRound
quote:you are right. You see no influence FROM TAF regarding money. They are only part of collecting it, NOT distributing it.
See, this is what makes sense, yet if you think through the last couple of years, TAF just doesn't have the leadership and balls that they should - plan and simple.
Took 2 firings of Les, add in 3-4 years prior of disgruntlement, then O gets hired... I see no influence from the money.
F. King largely controls that. It was FKA who shut down construction on the new nutrition center, money solicited and collected by TAF. It is FKA that controls what Alleva's budget it, hence what surplus comes from TAF will be... and then where that surplus is diverted to.
TAF did, very quietly solicit for and collect money to pay Miles' buyout in 2015. The firing never happened, because of FKA. That is another example of the limits of money. It's not who has it, it's who distributes it. The government is nothing but a money distribution machine; it doesn't make a dime. We the taxpayer have the money (TAF in this example), but that congressional budgeting committee (FKA in this example) controls that money, not the possessor (the taxpayer).
At the end of the day, TAF could collect millions for a project, including the fire Alleva/CEO campaign, the people who distribute that money say where it is going.
The only real power TAF has is to not provide money which would in turn reduce what stroke it has. It is, from the standpoint of TAF as an organization, effecting change through suicide.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:01 am to AnotherRound
I am waiting for an influencial TAF member to stand up to King, Alleva, O as the voice of opposition. Someone please take ownership
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 9:06 am
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:01 am to AnotherRound
The loudest voices have been Marcus Spears, Anthony McFarland and Bobby Hebert. Before and after the hire.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:25 am to WavinWilly
Cam seems to be doing pretty well for himself.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:37 am to I20goon
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I20goon
Yeah, I can't disagree with any of that - good points (some of which was new info to me, so thanks).
F King did show who controls the decision making back a couple of years ago. So it makes sense that he would control more than I would know about.
I still think this goes back to the money though. Those that are in charge of it - boosters that can cut checks - will have to deny any more to the university or TAF or funds of any kind until things change.
I think that is still money showing power. F King might not want to use it for certain means at certain times (as you laid out), but when he doesn't have any and the football program isn't supporting the AD budget, then the money will have the upper hand again.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:39 am to Giantkiller
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This is somewhat true. There's a difference between us and schools like Bama.
And this is what I was getting at.
You could also use T. Boone Pickens as an example of someone (a booster supporting a university) that has pull and say.
While LSU doesn't have a T Boone, when you group the big money together as a whole, their voice could be the same.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:14 am to AnotherRound
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WTF TAF
I suspect a TAF person leaking info to the press is a part of what caused the 2015 fiasco with Miles, though I am not fully convinced Jimbo wasn't just playing LSU for a raise and other guarantees from FSU. Perhaps they have learned a lesson and will be closer to the vest in the short term?
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:30 am to AnotherRound
Maybe TAF needs to take notes from the REC on how to get shite done in football
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:32 am to ibleedprplngld
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Some of those guys donate more than O's buyout. Piss enough of them off and he'll be gone before he can flip to page 2 of that fricking binder.
Was telling someone this the other day. There's some people out there with deeeeep pockets that will pony up the money if it comes to it. The money ain't the problem.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:38 am to sweetwaterbilly
Nobody is going to donate money for a buyout just so Alleva can have another lazy, effortless, embarrassing shitshow hire. These people arent dumb. LSU boosters are weak and have no power. They arent going to save LSU football. trust me.
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