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So we're down to playing 2 freshmen on the Oline...

Posted on 10/7/12 at 3:20 pm
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 10/7/12 at 3:20 pm
Turner and Vadal. Add Collins as a soph and this line is as young as they come. This just isn't going to allow us to get it done. We're simply not going to be able to run consistently nor have adequate time to throw. There aren't many options left for an offense that desperately needed a solid line for Mett to get his feet wet behind. I think many don't understand the necessity of a good line. The last time I saw a line this poor was the year after Alan Faneca left for the NFL. I believe we also lost Adam Perry and Ben Bordelon that year. Rondel Mealey had run all over defenses the year before but he and Herb Tyler were stymied behind a poor O line. It wasn't the scheme or the skill players we simply had no line. That season stunk. Unless something changes quickly this could continue to go downhill.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 3:21 pm to
If we were the number 2 rated O-line tandem in the country we should only drop to around number 20 now
Posted by MandevilleLSUTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
6881 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 3:21 pm to
A perceived strength became a weakness quickly.
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
30852 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 3:22 pm to
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Unless something changes quickly this could continue to go downhill.


Agree. Our OL needs some serious help.
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
28307 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 3:22 pm to
What class is Porter? He's been getting playing time when Lonergan gets hurt.
Posted by SOCAL TIGER
SOCAL
Member since Jan 2005
10721 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 3:22 pm to
When we were healthy we were not impressive!
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14675 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 3:23 pm to
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Posted by CP3LSU25 If we were the number 2 rated O-line tandem in the country we should only drop to around number 20 now


Not how it works. You lose starters- especially your anchor- all bets are off.
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7349 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 3:23 pm to
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Turner and Vadal. Add Collins as a soph and this line is as young as they come. This just isn't going to allow us to get it done


Some one gets it!!!!
Add poor offensive coaching and we have a losing trend up and coming.

Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 3:24 pm to
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Not how it works. You lose starters- especially your anchor- all bets are off.



It was Sarcasm
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14675 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 3:25 pm to
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Message Posted by graychef What class is Porter? He's been getting playing time when Lonergan gets hurt.


I thought about him too. He's a soph. It's possible we'll have 2 freshmen and 2 sophs at times. That's ridiculously scary.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 3:27 pm to
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A perceived strength became a weakness quickly.


we are quickly going to discover about this "depth" we are supposed to have.
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14675 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 3:27 pm to
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Message Posted by SOCAL TIGER When we were healthy we were not impressive!


When you lose a guy like Faulk before the season- you're never "healthy" after that. But we did run all over people early on. Even though they were weak opponents.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127362 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 3:27 pm to
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The last time I saw a line this poor was the year after Alan Faneca left for the NFL


2009 was bad.
Posted by rjokerlsu
Big Spring, TX
Member since Apr 2007
6885 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 3:27 pm to
Yes, poor coaching and like the other threads indicate, Stud must take responsiblity here. At the least, a new OL coach is needed. I have always considered him the weakest link on LSU's coaching staff. He surely should not be OC as well--a new OC with strong credentials is needed.

I think Collins, Turner and Vadal could all three be outstanding and better coaching for them would be a great thing.
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14675 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 3:29 pm to
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It was Sarcasm


My bad bro.
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14675 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 3:34 pm to
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Yes, poor coaching and like the other threads indicate, Stud must take responsiblity here. At the least, a new OL coach is needed. I have always considered him the weakest link on LSU's coaching staff. He surely should not be OC as well--a new OC with strong credentials is needed. I think Collins, Turner and Vadal could all three be outstanding and better coaching for them would be a great thing.


My assertion is not poor coaching on our line. No one could sustain these type injuries and have adequate depth. Not for SEC defenses. The young guys will probably be good in time but there's no way you can expect a staff to have freshmen linemen ready now. It's one of the toughest areas to prepare for.
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
28307 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 3:36 pm to
LSU has to make adjustments to those injuries. Find a way to mask the problems.
Posted by bellewr
wichita falls, tx
Member since Dec 2008
417 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 3:40 pm to
Unless you are Alabama and they just recruit better than we do and could plug in 5 freshman on the o-line, run against anyone for 300 yards and no QB sacks...
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14675 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 3:41 pm to
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Message Posted by graychef LSU has to make adjustments to those injuries. Find a way to mask the problems.


Suggestions? You can go to a shotgun and try to hit quick passes (if and I mean IF our wr's can catch them) but you have to be able to run the ball. I do think if the TE Jacobs can keep catching the ball he'll be a weapon coming off the line.
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
28307 posts
Posted on 10/7/12 at 3:42 pm to
The first drive.

Quick passes. TE involvement.
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