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re: So is next year Final Four or bust for Johnny Jones?

Posted on 1/9/15 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 3:39 pm to
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That's kind of one of the problems this season. The team is 5 maybe 6 deep.


That has nothing to do with valuing possessions and the basketball

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According to ESPN, LSU is tied for 321st in turnovers per game.


And who does that fall on?

LSU was ranked 314th (11th in SEC) in TO last year; The were ranked 206th (10th in SEC) the year before.

There is not, nor has there ever been, any emphasis by this staff to limit turnovers. It's not a matter of talent or lack thereof, it's a matter of sloppy, unsound basketball which Jones apparently has no issue with his team playing.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 3:49 pm to
So it is true after all: the Rant loves nothing more than firing coaches.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 3:52 pm to
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Well that's at the conclusion of next year sooo



NBA could try and move it to 2 years this offseason
This post was edited on 1/9/15 at 3:53 pm
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 4:48 pm to
Seriously Duke, Kentucky, and Kansas pulls these classes all the time. I'd say sweet sixteen or bust
Posted by tigers32
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 4:56 pm to
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It's not a matter of talent or lack thereof, it's a matter of sloppy, unsound basketball which Jones apparently has no issue with his team playing.

I hope you don't really believe this.
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 5:00 pm to
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I hope you don't really believe this.



I've never once seen him get on a player for sloppy play during a game.
Posted by tigers32
Member since Mar 2012
5622 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 5:03 pm to
Well, I have.

ETA: Right or wrong - Jones doesn't make much of a scene on the bench when a player makes a mistake. But why do you think Gray sat the bench after he shot an airball late in the second half last night?
This post was edited on 1/9/15 at 5:05 pm
Posted by LSUtah
Salt Lake City
Member since Feb 2011
872 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 5:10 pm to
What do assistant basketball coaches do besides wear suits and hold clipboards? Maybe he could use better assistants...? Clearly Johnny can recruit..
Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 5:14 pm to
I would think that as long as he shows a steady improvement, he should be ok for awhile. Unless he does like his predecessor and shows potential before falling off the cliff.
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 5:20 pm to
We don't have the coach. if we keep recruiting at this rate will have final four talent every year but get killed in the NCAA by mid majors. Lack of focus, no half court offense, you can't beat good teams playing street ball.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28333 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 5:40 pm to
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So it is true after all: the Rant loves nothing more than firing coaches.


Nah......just poor AD's who hire bad ones.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 5:57 pm to
lol

no
Posted by sassyLSU
Lake Charles, La.
Member since May 2011
2080 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 6:11 pm to

LINK

CBS projects LSU to be an 11 seed.
That will change but for now, #11.

In this CBS scenario, LSU opens vs #6 North Carolina, meets 3 seed Utah and then 2 seed Villanova, then 1 seed Duke. the games vs Villanova and Duke will likely be in NYC.
If LSU falters just a little, but still holds on to an 11, they will have to have a play in game vs another 11.

Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7349 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 6:45 pm to
Nope they've been in 4 final fours. Bob petit took us to one. We lost to Indiana or Ohio state.
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7349 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 7:00 pm to
We lost to Indiana in 1953 so 4 final fours
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 7:06 pm to
LSU actually has to make the tourney first.

So let's start there.
Posted by Wayne Hardwood
Parts unknown
Member since Jun 2014
137 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:00 pm to
Ban yourself. And then go frick yourself
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:15 pm to
Nah, all he needs to do is get LSU Basketball exciting again and put butts in the seats. He's doing well thus far.
Posted by tigers32
Member since Mar 2012
5622 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:18 pm to
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all he needs to do is get LSU Basketball exciting again and put butts in the seats.

Pretty much what I'm hoping for out of Jones.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14467 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:52 pm to
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So is next year Final Four or bust for Johnny Jones?


Johnny's gonna get a lot of rope. He has a lot of big hitters on his side, and no one really gives a shite about basketball.

That and his recruiting acumen will buy him a lot of time.

I sure hope he learns how to command more respect from his kids in that time he gets. IMHO his biggest issue is he can't seem to get his kids to carry out simple directives that he what he wants them to, like not jacking irresponsible shots, communicating on defense and valuing ball possession. For me that's more concerning than actually having no clue,

I think he has a clue, at least at an average relative level, but he can't motivate his kids to execute at the simplest fundamental level.
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