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So Alleva's Claim To Fame Is A Coach He Didn't Hire?

Posted on 3/13/16 at 11:32 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 3/13/16 at 11:32 am
Is this correct?

I keep hearing that Alleva, due to the fact that he came from Duke, has a "basketball mind" because he came from the best CBB school.

Great.

But Alleva didn't hire Coach K, did he. Tom Butters did. Is that correct?

If so, WTF is Alleva's claim to fame other than being an SJW AD?

Yeah, I totally trust this moron to make a great hire if we fire JJ (which we should do).

/rant.
Posted by WPBTiger
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Posted on 3/13/16 at 11:34 am to
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Yeah, I totally trust this moron to make a great hire if we fire JJ (which we should do).



This.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50063 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 11:45 am to
As I said several times, they both need to be fired .
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40051 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 11:50 am to
I don't trust Alleva to make another MBB hire, but after this disaster I can not support CJJ coaching the team for another season. It it a very shitty time to be an LSU bball fan right now.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50163 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 12:12 pm to
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I don't trust Alleva to make another MBB hire, but after this disaster I can not support CJJ coaching the team for another season. It it a very shitty time to be an LSU bball fan right now


I took my TV off of mute yesterday to hear what the announcers were saying about our team that obviously quit.

I hate the abuse LSU takes from biased announcers in all sports but baseball, but the things they were saying yesterday were painfully true.

I hate if for JJ because he is an LSU guy through and through, but he cannot do a lot of the basics as a coach.

JJ, Alleva, and the media, pretty much put our program on probation again yesterday. It will take years for LSU to overcome the 2015-2016 season.
Posted by Rod Craft
Member since Jan 2016
54 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 12:22 pm to
Alleva is nothing more than a $200.00 haircut. If it weren't "LSU" or "Duke" on his business card, it would be State Farm. Most ADs are the same. The past fiasco with football and the collapse of the basketball program indicate it's time for a change.

We need a strong competent manager, NOW. Alleva and JJ need to go, asap. Incompetence is one thing. Repeated national embarrassment is another. Worse, I'd be surprised if the behind the scenes issues don't begin to surface.

This is the test. Where do we prioritize basketball?

Posted by NoNameTiger
Mandeville, LA
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 3/13/16 at 12:27 pm to
Honestly, I think we can pick a random fan from the stands to coach each basketball game and do just as well as JJ.

Granted, random fan may not recruit like JJ, but I don't think the actual coaching would drop off much.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50163 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 12:47 pm to
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Alleva is nothing more than a $200.00 haircut. If it weren't "LSU" or "Duke" on his business card, it would be State Farm. Most ADs are the same. The past fiasco with football and the collapse of the basketball program indicate it's time for a change.


And while at Duke, he successfully destroyed their second best sports program due to his love for being an SJW.

If I recall correctly, Duke Lacrosse, at the time, was THE top Lacrosse program in the NCAA.
Posted by ehidal1
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Member since Dec 2007
37132 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 12:51 pm to
To be fair, here is what I have for Alleva-

- Nikki Caldwell- EVERYONE thought this was a home run hire; no one expected her to quit recruiting
- Trent Johnson- terrible fit and was fools gold at Stanford; bad hire on Alleva
- Beth Torina- absolute home run hire and she was after Murphy the Bama legend backed out last minute (would have been another home run)
- Johnny Jones- we all know this wasn't Alleva's hire; the good ole boys let Alleva fail with his guy (TJ) and forced theirs in
- the Les Miles debacle falls all on him as well; did he have Jimbo wrapped up and the info leak killed it? If Alleva had Les out and Jimbo in, he would've been a hero on this board. Still, you have to drop this at Alleva's feet, even if F. King fricked him over.

In all, the only awful hire you can put on him is really TJ. JJ was not him and Nikki just flat out quit. Hard to blame him for that one.

He absolutely should be crucified on the Les Miles extension and the cluster that was the end of last football season. He has decided to give Nikki another year. We will see on JJ, although if JJ stays, Alleva and JJ will have to go next year. And that is, if Miles turns it around this year. If we have another 8-4 season, we will hopefully get a new AD and they will be hiring a new football coach, along with men's and women's basketball.
This post was edited on 3/13/16 at 12:52 pm
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20223 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 12:59 pm to
So let me get this straight. You think Alleva has done a bang up job and we couldn't do better... Right?
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
13003 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 12:59 pm to
Do you put Jones' extension after the 2014 NIT season on Alleva?

I don't understand the incentive to extend/raise Jones after that season. There is no way he was a flight risk.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37132 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 1:01 pm to
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So let me get this straight. You think Alleva has done a bang up job and we couldn't do better... Right?

Do you jump to moronic conclusions like this in real life too? Or just on this board?
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37132 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

Do you put Jones' extension after the 2014 NIT season on Alleva?

I don't understand the incentive to extend/raise Jones after that season. There is no way he was a flight risk.

Agree 100%. Alleva's history with contract extensions have been awful.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 1:15 pm to
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Incompetence is one thing. Repeated national embarrassment is another. 


THIS
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 3/13/16 at 1:22 pm to
Alleva is a top-flight AD like BRCC is an Ivy League school.
Posted by TigerDean
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
1342 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 1:28 pm to
Alleva isn't the problem, He didn't hire JJ .. Dale Brown stuck his neck out for JJ.. Dale is the reason Jones is the coach at LSU. I love Coach Brown, But JJ can't coach his way out of a double open ended garage bag. LSU needs to move on from this awful hire.


Time to get a Real Head Coach , stop wasting all those dollars they fleece from the fans and Hire a Proven Winner !!



Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 1:33 pm to
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Nikki just flat out quit. Hard to blame him for that one


quote:

He has decided to give Nikki another year


So can we blame him for the second part?

As a boss when your employees "quit" it's common practice to no longer pay them, and hire someone to do what is required at that position. Is that not part of the boss's job? Sounds like alleva either isn't doing his job or he is just terrible at it.

If he has given up on WBB I think he can at least find someone to suck for less than a million dollars a year, since he's so worried about money supposedly.
This post was edited on 3/13/16 at 1:47 pm
Posted by 56lsu
jackson mich
Member since Dec 2005
7441 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 2:08 pm to
don't think he is that great of a recruiter. to many guys on this team sit on the bench and never see the floor, taking up space is not recruiting
Posted by TheBadgerOfHoney
Member since Nov 2011
1844 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 2:13 pm to
He literally did nothing at Duke that justified us hiring him
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7345 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 2:46 pm to
Alleva is not a good AD!! He didn't handle the Duke LaCrosse scandal well, and he dodn't handle the Les Miles Fiasco well. He can handle controversy he sucks.
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