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re: Should Collins sue BRPD for defamation?
Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:40 pm to theantiquetiger
Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:40 pm to theantiquetiger
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There was no reason for them to release this info just before the draft.
All is fair in a murder investigation. He has no recourse to sue anyone over being questioned about the murder of an unfortunate young women whom he admittedly had a very close relationship within the past few months. It's just horribly bad fortune; the likes of which gets doled out to common folk every day. If he's innocent, and I believe in my gut he is, I wish LC all the best going forward in his career.
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 4:03 pm to RANDY44
There is murderer at large. The police have an obligation to timely and effectively investigate.
This was not a parking ticket, where you can say, I will get with you later. This is a murder investigation and frankly the police can announce anything they want. They did not say that he did it. They just said that they wanted to talk to him.
He has no recourse against the police for doing their job.
This was not a parking ticket, where you can say, I will get with you later. This is a murder investigation and frankly the police can announce anything they want. They did not say that he did it. They just said that they wanted to talk to him.
He has no recourse against the police for doing their job.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 5:03 pm to timm6971463
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A lot/of people are questioned by police but they aren't announced to the public
No, it's just that some Joe Schmoe doesn't make the news or at least you don't realize it unless you know the person. I'm not in BR so i don't know what actually happened, but did the police leak his name ie secretly tell some one in the press or hold a PC? I would tend to doubt it. Much of what the police do is a matter of public record, not to mention the fact that for all i know, some reporter covering the murder talked to a witness (not the police) like a neightbor or relative that said the victim was Collins ex and that's how his name got out there. It is terrible timing for Collins, but him making a statement declaring his innocence or talking to the cops right away would probably not have helped his draft status. The only thing that would have helped is if they caught the guilty person at the sceen of the next day or something.
and i hope this was mentioned some where but LOL at people saying he has a defamation suit. Cops and prosecutors are immune, he could be arrested, tried and aquitted and would not have a defamation claim. unless maybe it was proven to be a fraud that was designed to ruin him, which is highly unlikly and still extreemly difficult to prove.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 5:11 pm to H-Town Tiger
This thread still alive 
Posted on 5/5/15 at 6:03 pm to ItTakesAThief
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The police have an obligation to timely
If timely is such a fricking big deal, why did the police keep Collins arse waiting three days to question him? He cant ask them to wait a few days before he comes in so he can save his draft projection, but they can wait three days after he gets back to bring him in for this all important questioning? That's fricked.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 6:24 pm to goatmilker
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This thread still alive
I was thinking the same thing. Are there still people out there who think he's got some case against BRPD?
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:15 pm to Gris Gris
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I was thinking the same thing.
Myself and I was the one who started this thread.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:21 pm to Gris Gris
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I was thinking the same thing. Are there still people out there who think he's got some case against BRPD?
Why wouldn't this thread still be alive? Are there any bigger stories than "projected first round draft pick loses millions, has reputation permanently tarnished by being linked by BRPD to the unsolved murder of a woman who could have been pregnant with his child, despite having never been declared as a suspect in the murder" this offseason?
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:30 pm to LSU Groupee
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f timely is such a fricking big deal, why did the police keep Collins arse waiting three days to question him? He cant ask them to wait a few days before he comes in so he can save his draft projection, but they can wait three days after he gets back to bring him in for this all important questioning? That's fricked.
This is why this thread is still alive, gold like this. I wonder if people think the real world works like Law and Order, where they wrap up a case in 44 minutes
Once word got out that a woman he was linked to got out, his draft was over, short of there being an immediate arrest of someone else the weekend before the draft. Given the current climate, there is no way NFL teams were going to touch him, whether he talked to the BRPD the day before the draft or not until after.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:57 am to DontCare
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Why wouldn't this thread still be alive? Are there any bigger stories than "projected first round draft pick loses millions, has reputation permanently tarnished by being linked by BRPD to the unsolved murder of a woman who could have been pregnant with his child, despite having never been declared as a suspect in the murder" this offseason?
Because there is no defamation case.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 8:07 am to Gris Gris
he may not have a case to sue and win but he still got fricked over by brpd. police leaked his name and that caused him to lose millions and then waited over a week to interview him. why leak his name and cause him to lose millions if police knew he was not a suspect. police know how to be discreet if they want to. for ex. police question someone (not a suspect) in a murder case but don't release his name because he is married and was having an affair with deceased.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:08 am to Gris Gris
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Because there is no defamation case.
Did their verbal confirmation do La'el irreparable harm resulting in the tangible loss of millions of dollars? Yes.
Were they compelled to do that harm without any alternative? No.
Would taking some legal action against BRPD necessarily be successful? Probably not. Even so, if I were him, I would want to take some sort of retributative action against anyone who cost me millions of dollars if I had no reason to be publicly smeared as he was. And I would go hard after Shefter.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:49 am to DontCare
Hopefully La'el is getting better legal advice. Based on what we know, it's just a bad set of events. Sometimes people are harmed and can't hold anyone responsible. It happens.
He can sue all he wants. Anyone can sue for anything. People are damn litigious these days. Getting far is another story. Getting money from BRPD ain't happenin'.
Y'all can complain about this forever, but it doesn't change anything.
La'el also may not want any more of this story out in the public than is already out there. You never know. What would be the point of filing and having the case thrown out bc there isn't one? He'll look silly doing that.
It's not BRPD's problem that a person who knew the victim was about to enter the draft. They don't have to consider that or make special arrangements. The timing sucked.
Shefter got a true story and reported it. You can't go after him hard. Your case wouldn't last long enough and you'd need money to pay to go after a losing battle.
He can sue all he wants. Anyone can sue for anything. People are damn litigious these days. Getting far is another story. Getting money from BRPD ain't happenin'.
Y'all can complain about this forever, but it doesn't change anything.
La'el also may not want any more of this story out in the public than is already out there. You never know. What would be the point of filing and having the case thrown out bc there isn't one? He'll look silly doing that.
It's not BRPD's problem that a person who knew the victim was about to enter the draft. They don't have to consider that or make special arrangements. The timing sucked.
Shefter got a true story and reported it. You can't go after him hard. Your case wouldn't last long enough and you'd need money to pay to go after a losing battle.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:57 am to oldschoolgreats
" police leaked his name "
Police are public servants. This is a matter of public concern. A homicide investigation with a killer at large.
Police can request to speak to anyone they like. They can go to the public with information to assist in the investigation. They never said he "murdered" the girl. Just that they needed to speak with him.
Regardless it is likely that Lael may have had an obligation to disclose this situation to NFL teams prior to the draft. I am sure that it is a question they ask all potential draftees. Do you have any legal situations presently?
Police are public servants. This is a matter of public concern. A homicide investigation with a killer at large.
Police can request to speak to anyone they like. They can go to the public with information to assist in the investigation. They never said he "murdered" the girl. Just that they needed to speak with him.
Regardless it is likely that Lael may have had an obligation to disclose this situation to NFL teams prior to the draft. I am sure that it is a question they ask all potential draftees. Do you have any legal situations presently?
Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:04 pm to Gris Gris
Exactly, they did nothing but their job. He was her boy friend, maybe former but never the less he had been involved with her and he was possibly the father of her unborn child.
He put himself into the situation, not the BRPD.
He put himself into the situation, not the BRPD.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:08 pm to DontCare
He was linked because he either wass her boyfriend or formerly was and was possibly the father of her unborn child.
He made himself a part of the investigation no one else
He made himself a part of the investigation no one else
Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:10 pm to dagotiger
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He put himself into the situation, not the BRPD.
Knowing someone who was murdered isn't "putting yourself into a situation."
Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:16 pm to SammyTiger
most of these guys with so much to lose think with their wrong heads.
They mess around with anyone and everyone and fail to think of the consequences they might have to face.
He has no one to blame but himself.
They mess around with anyone and everyone and fail to think of the consequences they might have to face.
He has no one to blame but himself.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:20 pm to Gris Gris
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La'el also may not want any more of this story out in the public than is already out there. You never know. What would be the point of filing and having the case thrown out bc there isn't one? He'll look silly doing that.
It's not BRPD's problem that a person who knew the victim was about to enter the draft. They don't have to consider that or make special arrangements. The timing sucked.
Shefter got a true story and reported it. You can't go after him hard. Your case wouldn't last long enough and you'd need money to pay to go after a losing battle.
agree unless he has a pretty good chance of winning a law suit I think its in his best interest to let this fade from the headlines and not come back.
Also, If I was in his position, even if I was %110 innocent I don't think I would do anything to antagonize the police until the case had been %100 totally cleared and someone else arrested (who i had no link to), which is something that might never happen.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:27 pm to DontCare
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Knowing someone who was murdered isn't "putting yourself into a situation."
It's just bad luck to have an acquaintance, gf or whatever who became the victim of a murder. Fact is he knew her in one way or another and possibly in the biblical way. Doesn't matter. The police want to talk to people she knew as part of the investigation. Whether they thought he was a suspect or not, they publicly said he was not. His lawyer said more damaging things than BRPD did, for example, that they were trying to rule him out as a suspect and hired a PI to try to prove an alibi etc...
You can be harmed and not have legal recourse. This is one of those cases as it stands now. Damage doesn't always equal a money award. The amount doesn't matter.
If La'el wasn't "famous" at the time, no one would be saying anything about a name being released. They could have released the names of 20 people they were looking to interview who could possibly have information regarding the victim.
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