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Scouting umpires' strike zones
Posted on 6/2/17 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 6/2/17 at 8:24 pm
Anyone know if college or pro teams ever scout umpires before they call a game? Seems like with all the metrics they're gathering these days pre scouting an ump to determine he typically likes them high or on the inside corner to righties etc would be an advantage.
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 8:27 pm to LSshoe
Not sure but if you tried to scout the umpire that called the tournament championship, you'd be fricked.
Posted on 6/2/17 at 8:29 pm to LSshoe
I'd believe the SEC conference umps are welll scouted.
What conference refs are calling Baton Rouge regional?
I could see Lsu trading scouting reports with a different conference team in a different regional.
What conference refs are calling Baton Rouge regional?
I could see Lsu trading scouting reports with a different conference team in a different regional.
This post was edited on 6/2/17 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 6/2/17 at 8:30 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
Truth 
Posted on 6/2/17 at 8:35 pm to CheerWhine
Yeah some umps are pretty inconsistent, but I'd imagine even that is potentially useful info.
Posted on 6/2/17 at 9:30 pm to LSshoe
sounds to me like a pretty good business to get into...
Posted on 6/2/17 at 9:51 pm to LSshoe
MLB without a doubt does. Some clubs (Red Sox, Rangers that I know of); some pitchers/catchers.
If they're not in college, they should be. Have less resources, so I doubt near about as in-depth and accurate.
If they're not in college, they should be. Have less resources, so I doubt near about as in-depth and accurate.
Posted on 6/2/17 at 11:21 pm to LSshoe
Good point. The fact that the question is asked is an indictment of the umpires for inability to simply follow a rule book.
If we can't trust them to be consistently apply the rule as written on balls and strikes, why should they have any fricking credibility on other calls?
If we can't trust them to be consistently apply the rule as written on balls and strikes, why should they have any fricking credibility on other calls?
Posted on 6/2/17 at 11:41 pm to Twenty 49
Tomthe earlier posters point, how does NCAA assign crews in the post season?
Posted on 6/3/17 at 9:26 am to LSshoe
Major league umpires are amazingly consistent and damn good at what they do.
College umpires, not so much.
College umpires, not so much.
Posted on 6/3/17 at 9:50 am to Twenty 49
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The fact that the question is asked is an indictment of the umpires for inability to simply follow a rule book.
Really the inconsistency is more from perception. It's easier to call a pitch a ball or strike, or a runner out from the comfort of your living room with a nicely spotted camera, instant replay and in the MLB that fancy box that straight up outlines the zone. Ump doesn't have the benefit of that. What may be sitting right at the corner from their angle, (allegedly, at lest) was actually almost in the other batter's box. Their job isn't easy, but it definitely doesn't mean they can't be better.
It's possible with future technology and analytics, you could have some form of 'score' on an ump as to how good or shitty, or at least consistent an umpire is. Might help with getting better umps into bigger spots. It's one thing to call a ball a bit outside a strike, but you gotta be able to do it with at least a fair bit of consistency, and for both sides.
Posted on 6/3/17 at 11:08 am to LSshoe
quote:I know that MLB and the World Umpires Association (the umpire's union) "scouts" the umpires. They've keep track of all of the pitch calls for more than a decade.
if college or pro teams ever scout umpires
Each crew is given a DVD after each series. It shows every pitch, the pitch location, the ump's call, the proper call, and all of the associated statistics.
They use it internally as a teaching tool for newer umps and as an improvement tool for seasoned umps. However, most seasoned umps fail to properly utilize these reports and some refuse to even look at them... some even boast that they throw them right in the trash.
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