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Say what you want. O line was manhandled.

Posted on 11/5/16 at 10:29 pm
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4719 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 10:29 pm
You can scheme and call whatever you want. When you can't run, qb is running for his life, you are not going to be successful.

You could have switched o coordinators and have the same results.

Have to get better at o-line and qb
Posted by DaStain
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
2117 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 10:30 pm to
Agree. The offensive line was completely dominated.
Posted by Meldedee
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
3318 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 10:33 pm to
This is what lost the game. This, and when the refs started wearing a scarlet A.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26257 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 10:34 pm to
There's certain plays you can call when you're outmatched on the OL.

Ole Miss and Ark scored 30+ on these guys. No reason for us to get shut out at home.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66232 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 10:36 pm to
We ran a lot of Les Miles style plays with LF7

2 TE WR in tight. That's a trash play didn't work last year didn't work this year
Posted by Stud Bud
MS But travel all over the country
Member since Sep 2015
6958 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 10:36 pm to
OM has a worse OL than we do, but they can scheme and score points.

We went back in with the same game plan as Les for 6 years in a row.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4719 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 10:50 pm to
Alabama had two weeks to prepare. They don't prepare two weeks for another team. Besides, if you can't block, your qb can't hit an open guy in third down, it doesn't matter what play is called
Posted by Stud Bud
MS But travel all over the country
Member since Sep 2015
6958 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 10:52 pm to
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Alabama had two weeks to prepare.


How many weeks did LSU have to prepare?
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4719 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 11:01 pm to
Dude, we are not an offensive juggernaut. However, bama is a defensive juggernaut. With that sai, their d line is more talented than our o line. Their qb is better than ours. We were not out coached tonight. We were out talented by a small margin. 7 of their point were aided by a bs call out of bounds. That was third down and they punt. Instead it kept the drive alive
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 11:20 pm to
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You could have switched o coordinators and have the same results.
No. Alabama games this year:

USC 195 Total Yards, 11 First Downs, 6 Points

WKU 239, 10, 12

Ole Miss 522, 23, 43

Kent State 166, 5, 0

Kentucky 161, 12, 6

Arkansas 473, 25, 30

Tennessee 163, 11, 10

Texas ATm 278, 17, 14

LSU 125, 6, 0

While I agree that we don't have a good QB and our oline played terrible, there's no excuse for putting up the worst offensive performance against Bama this year. Our oline is better than almost all of the teams they've played. We executed on a Kent State level on offense tonight.

We completely wasted an elite and special defensive performance that nobody in the nation will talk about. We held Alabama to their lowest point and yardage total only for the offense to throw it under the bus.
This post was edited on 11/5/16 at 11:28 pm
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 11:58 pm to
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OM has a worse OL than we do
I wouldn't say that. They at least have their guys in their correct positions. We have several OL not in their correct position.
Posted by anchovyd
Mainland, FL
Member since Sep 2014
280 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 12:41 am to
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Ole Miss and Ark scored 30+ on these guys.


Yeah but the level of Kelly and Allen are much better than Etling. Etling missed some easy wide open throws tonight. Kelly is more accurate plus he can run.

You've got to run quick timing passes to make up for a week line. The pass plays LSU were calling took too long to develop. Not to bring up Leach again but take a look at the plays they run. As soon as the QB steps back he fires away getting rid of the ball in a two beats.

Etling dropped back and went through one or two receivers before throwing the ball. It's not all Etling's fault, it's the system. I'm sure LSU hasn't been practicing the short timing routes to the extent that Leach does if at all. We are more of a power team and the only game where we are going to be outmatched on the line is against Bama although Wisconsin owned our OLine this year too. For us to full change our system and go Big 12 style is going to be too much of a culture shock to the fan base.

You figure with the extra week, O could've put together and had the team practice a quick passing attack game plan to counteract Bama's advantage at the line.

The only thing we had quick was the screen which netted us about 1 to 2 yards per completion.

It was sad seeing Buga corralled all day. I don't blame Ens for trying but after a handful of attempts it was obvious running 4net was futile but they kept wasting plays throughout the rest of the game trying.

I don't know what to think about O and Ens, I feel like they made a mistake in gameplanning thinking that our line would be able to execute against Bama and that just mixing it up would solve our problems and open things up for Fournette.

Aranda's gameplan and calling on the other hand was unreal. Our defense was phenomenal. That guy is smart.

I think O could be a good head coach, he had our guys ready to play with intensity for the full 60 but we would really need a guy the caliber of Aranda as OC.

Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28607 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 6:41 am to
This is nothing new. Happens every single time against Bama.
Posted by PairofDucks
Member since Jul 2016
4992 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 6:43 am to
What does this have to do with coaching changes? Or do you just post your thoughts wherever you see fit?
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64003 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 6:54 am to
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While I agree that we don't have a good QB and our oline played terrible, there's no excuse for putting up the worst offensive performance against Bama this year. Our oline is better than almost all of the teams they've played. We executed on a Kent State level on offense tonight.



You don't think Bama was maybe a little more fired up for this game??
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 7:07 am to
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You don't think Bama was maybe a little more fired up for this game??
I've been waiting for someone to say this.

You don't think our oline should have been maybe a little more fired up for this game? Did O fail to motivate the oline? That's supposed to be one of his best qualities.

No excuses for the worst offensive performance out of those most of those teams.

This post was edited on 11/6/16 at 7:09 am
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127317 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 7:17 am to
The "firing up" angle is useless when you run a scheme that plays into Bama's hands.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4719 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 7:18 am to
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You don't think our oline should have been maybe a little more fired up for this game? Did O fail to motivate the oline? That's supposed to be one of his best qualities.



I think they were fired up. I Just think they were playing against a nfl type d-line. You realize the Bama defense has scored on every team they have played except for LSU? Who is performing well against Bama Defense? I didn't realize Bama has been losing games. All you have to do is get a kids who have not performed well all season (lsu online) motivated and they will push Bama around? They have the best defense in the country. Now, you will say Michigan because of stats. Watch the games, Bama's defense is one of the best in college football history. Sometimes the other team is better than you. I know it's hard to imagine.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64003 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 7:19 am to
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You don't think our oline should have been maybe a little more fired up for this game? Did O fail to motivate the oline? That's supposed to be one of his best qualities.



A fired up Bama d line is going to trump a fired up lsu o line 7 days out of 7 as they are currently constructed. That's where we are right now in terms of talent in those spots.
This post was edited on 11/6/16 at 7:21 am
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 7:27 am to
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Who is performing well against Bama Defense?
Ole Miss and Arkansas did pretty well. All of the teams they've played have done better than us.
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You realize the Bama defense has scored on every team they have played except for LSU?
We did a great job protecting the ball, and going nowhere with it.
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I didn't realize Bama has been losing games.
When did I say that?
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All you have to do is get a kids who have not performed well all season (lsu online) motivated and they will push Bama around?
When did I say that? I don't think you understand the context of my post.
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They have the best defense in the country.
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Bama's defense is one of the best in college football history.
And we did the worst against them.
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Sometimes the other team is better than you. I know it's hard to imagine
No arguments there.
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I think they were fired up.
Then we can't use the "Bama was more fired up" excuse. Both teams were fired up. If it's talent, how does that explain the reason other less talented teams did better against them? Could it be even remotely related to coaching? No. Of course not. Blasphemy!
This post was edited on 11/6/16 at 7:38 am
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