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Relying on great assistant coaches is a recipe for disaster

Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:09 pm
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16153 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:09 pm
We keep hearing from the pro Coach O crowd, "We'll keep Aranda, get Kiffin (or some other good OC), then we're off to the races!!! Dream team!"

The problem with this thought process is assuming these great assistant coaches stick around for the long term. Assistant coaches don't build programs and long term success.

-Saban loses his DC and they don't miss a beat.

-Meyer loses his OC and they're back in the title hunt

Great head coaches sustain long term success. Not assistants.

What happens when Coach O loses Aranda? And Kiffin (If we even get him)?
Posted by philter
Member since Dec 2004
8966 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:13 pm to
Everyone knows this, including the LSU admins. They chose to risk it, it is what it is.
Posted by someoldhussy
Candyland
Member since Jun 2007
2439 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:15 pm to
We've been doing it for the past 12 fricking years
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
10509 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:15 pm to
I don't think LSU will ever have trouble attracting top assistants due to high salaries and fertile recruiting ground in state.
Posted by runaway_jimbeaux
Mountains
Member since Nov 2016
24 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:16 pm to
The presser reminded me of Trump in a way. "I'll surround myself with the best". Was very odd.
Posted by tjohn deaux
GA
Member since Feb 2007
10170 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:17 pm to
I heard that about head coaches too.
Posted by lotiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
387 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:18 pm to
So a HC just goes out and hires crappy coaches ?? A good HC will go out and hire the best assistants that he can and let them coach
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16153 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:21 pm to
quote:

We've been doing it for the past 12 fricking years


Uh, you mean Cam Cameron, Kevin Steele, BDP, Gary Crowton, etc?

Those are the greats that have lead us to the promised land?
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1520 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

We keep hearing from the pro Coach O crowd, "We'll keep Aranda, get Kiffin (or some other good OC), then we're off to the races!!! Dream team!" The problem with this thought process is assuming these great assistant coaches stick around for the long term. Assistant coaches don't build programs and long term success. -Saban loses his DC and they don't miss a beat. -Meyer loses his OC and they're back in the title hunt Great head coaches sustain long term success. Not assistants. What happens when Coach O loses Aranda? And Kiffin (If we even get him)?



Saban relies on the mighty Kiffin bro.....he's not an offensive mind.....
doomsday prophet
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131181 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:29 pm to
would you rather a more high profile head coach that promotes BDP/Mallory to DC and Studrawa/Cameron types to OC?

because that wasn't working.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16153 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:33 pm to
Saban has won National Championships with 5 different OC's. A different coordinator for every single National Championship.

Fact
Posted by SouthTiger504
Member since Sep 2014
1163 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:34 pm to
I was trying to explain this in another thread. Saban might not have the title "defensive coordinator" but he damn well coordinates that defense. Same goes for Urban Meyer and Jimbo on offense.

These head coaches build an identity for their team regardless of who's the coordinators.

With Orgeron LSU will be a revolving door of coordinators and will never have a true identity.

We will be steadily switching offensive and defensive styles as the coordinators come in and out. Some doing well and advancing to better jobs and some shitting the bed and getting fired.

With O this will never end.
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 11:37 pm
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:38 pm to
quote:

would you rather a more high profile head coach that promotes BDP/Mallory to DC and Studrawa/Cameron types to OC?

because that wasn't working.


No

Is that the only other option though?
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:39 pm to
Shut up....we are tired of hearing it.

Go away
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:41 pm to
No one is forcing you to read the rant all day and night. If people not liking the hire bothers you so much, you should probably go somewheres else on the internet
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10439 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:41 pm to
LSU and Alleva decided to worry about continuity, familiarity, and the short term. Just like with basketball, this will not only be a short term disaster, but will likely destroy everythimg DiNardo and Sabah built at LSU.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98123 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:43 pm to
Not having great assistant coaches is a recipe for disaster.
Posted by SouthTiger504
Member since Sep 2014
1163 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:43 pm to
right now we're depending on Dave Aranda. If he stays at LSU for 4 or 5 more years and continues to field championship caliber defenses he'll be our next HC.
Posted by mnstar
minnesota
Member since Oct 2011
77 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:44 pm to
Both Saban and Miles where middle of the road coaches until
the got use of the La. talent pool.It's to early to pronounce
coach O a failure.The ability to recruit and evaluate talent
in assistants and players will decide the succes of coach O
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68445 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:44 pm to
By finding great assistants they are able to do so
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