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Question for coach O supporters.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 11/13/16 at 3:49 pm
Do you think it would have made a difference to include Guice in the game plan against bama. As good as Fournette is , he did not have one of his better games that night. Guice brings a little more wiggle and different type runner than Fournette. He had two weeks to prepare and basically went all miles in biggest hame of
Posted on 11/13/16 at 4:12 pm to tigerfan63
Disclaimer: I would not call myself an "O supporter." I was in the camp that if we won out, i.e., a natty, then he should be given strong consideration. It's all about winning championships.
Now back to the OP, the game with Bama could have turned on a single play (or lousy officiating call). It was the kind of game that you have to 'manufacture' points.
So our OC should have tried to set-up some HR plays of whatever sort.
Now back to the OP, the game with Bama could have turned on a single play (or lousy officiating call). It was the kind of game that you have to 'manufacture' points.
So our OC should have tried to set-up some HR plays of whatever sort.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 4:53 pm to tigerfan63
quote:
Do you think it would have made a difference to include Guice in the game plan against bama
no...I think it would have made a difference to have an O-line that could open holes for either one of them.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 5:33 pm to AlwysATgr
quote:So Coach O has no responsibility to insure that this happens,(It's on the OC) but gets credit for Aranda's D shutting them down for 3 quarters keeping us in the game?
the game with Bama could have turned on a single play (or lousy officiating call). It was the kind of game that you have to 'manufacture' points.
So our OC should have tried to set-up some HR plays of whatever sort
And when the offense is able to move the ball, O is somehow responsible?
This post was edited on 11/13/16 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 11/13/16 at 6:04 pm to tigerfan63
quote:Yes.
Do you think it would have made a difference to include Guice in the game plan against bama.
quote:Not really. He should have used Guice, but that was a single mistake. Miles was supposed to be the offensive line guru, and couldn't even do that. Give Coach O a year to retool and retrain the o-line and I think he beats Alabama on that improvement alone.
He had two weeks to prepare and basically went all miles in biggest hame of
Posted on 11/13/16 at 6:09 pm to mmcgrath
I'm pulling for O. I'd like to seem him do well. Having said that, he should have given Guice a shot against Bama. It probably wouldn't have made a difference. Our OL was overmatched.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 6:15 pm to Katy Tiger
was a tough game. Fairer officiating and a more composed Etling would have made more difference than Guice getting more touches. Hard to do much with a completely overmatched o-line though
Posted on 11/13/16 at 6:15 pm to Katy Tiger
Who knows as they are good as frick on defense. One thing is for sure and that's plan A didn't work...again and there seemed to be no plan B.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 6:16 pm to tigerfan63
No clue whether Guice playi g more would have helped but he does hit the hole harder than Fournette does. Fournette punishes some LB's and all safeties but Guice runs violent at the line which is what we needed against bama with little running room available. As far as hiring O I think it could work keeping Aranda and with the right OC. My question to everyone else is are you comfortable hiring like a Jimbo for $5 or $6MM with a long term contract they would definitely require. What if he doesn't work out? We're screwed for years that way. Hire O for a fraction of the cost on a shorter deal and see what happens. Just my opinion.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 6:17 pm to tigerfan63
Thanks Captain Hindsight
Posted on 11/13/16 at 6:19 pm to jimmy the leg
I'm a Coach O Supporter and I approve this message.
Back to the subject at hand, No I don't think it would have made any difference. If the Offensive Line is not able to provide a crease for LF then giving Guice more carries would have not made a difference.
However, I also understand that as a Coach O Supporter, it is unfair and almost impossible for any Offensive Coordinator to come into LSU and re-invent a 12-year-old offensive scheme at midseason. I believe that Ensminger and Coach O had tried to use different looks and utilize different formations in order to try to have a more balanced offense. But, it generally doesn't work against the best defenses.
With this said, I think the season should play out and if Coach O runs the table, he should receive some consideration at the HC position!
Back to the subject at hand, No I don't think it would have made any difference. If the Offensive Line is not able to provide a crease for LF then giving Guice more carries would have not made a difference.
However, I also understand that as a Coach O Supporter, it is unfair and almost impossible for any Offensive Coordinator to come into LSU and re-invent a 12-year-old offensive scheme at midseason. I believe that Ensminger and Coach O had tried to use different looks and utilize different formations in order to try to have a more balanced offense. But, it generally doesn't work against the best defenses.
With this said, I think the season should play out and if Coach O runs the table, he should receive some consideration at the HC position!
This post was edited on 11/13/16 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 11/13/16 at 6:21 pm to tigerfan63
To OP's family: my sincerest condolences. Was it his nose that hit submit as his soul moved to a better place?
Posted on 11/13/16 at 6:59 pm to jwill37
I don't think guide could be made a difference unless he was running different plays. Those plays we ran were never going to work, because our Oline sucks (something we knew going into the game)
O and ensminger screwed the pooch by rolling out that game plan, especially with all of the knowledge we have over the last 5 years. It wasn't on the players, oline, or refs. It was pure coaching.
Dumb. You want to go cheap just in case it doesn't work out? You don't fire les for $9m just to go cheap on his replacement.
That's a complete loser mentality.
O and ensminger screwed the pooch by rolling out that game plan, especially with all of the knowledge we have over the last 5 years. It wasn't on the players, oline, or refs. It was pure coaching.
quote:
My question to everyone else is are you comfortable hiring like a Jimbo for $5 or $6MM with a long term contract they would definitely require. What if he doesn't work out? We're screwed for years that way. Hire O for a fraction of the cost on a shorter deal and see what happens. Just my opinion
Dumb. You want to go cheap just in case it doesn't work out? You don't fire les for $9m just to go cheap on his replacement.
That's a complete loser mentality.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 7:01 pm to Red Drum
Sorry, trying to work and post at same time. My biggest beef is at times this year our offense has fone better with Fournette out and Guice in. Especially passing when they spread the defense out.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 7:06 pm to tigerfan63
Alabama is simply more talented and extremely well coached. There's no coach in the country that would have led LSU to victory...not with the O line performance displayed in that game. And BTW, Alabama can tackle Guice after a 2 yd gain just as easy as Fournette.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 7:20 pm to tigerfan63
Can't all you guys that are against Coach Orgeron get together and place your stupid arse questions all together in one thread and try to do it weekly instead of ten times a day
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