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Prepare yourself for Jet Sweeps

Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:44 pm
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10010 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:44 pm
I watched about three of Pitt's games this year and Canada LOVES him some jet sweep.

This will be the new toss dive/short side option of the rant. Prepare your bodies.

ETA: For everyone getting bent out of shape over this, I don't have anything against the jet sweep and realize it can be a part of an effective gameplan. It just appears to be Canada's favorite play call and once we get stopped on a critical third down trying to use a jet sweep, watch this board meltdown.
This post was edited on 12/15/16 at 2:29 pm
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52147 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:47 pm to
Chark running the jet sweep
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23283 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:48 pm to
Meh, he knows that stretching the field tires a defense out. It's really not that much different than what Tom Herman ran at Ohio State and Houston. A lot of runs and passes horizontally to tire out the defense and keep them guessing.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77292 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:49 pm to
My body is ready...
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
22157 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:54 pm to
Little Fournette will be the master of the jet sweep
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:55 pm to
well a jet sweep is alot more effective than a short side option or toss dive.
The reason being is it one forces the defense to show what it is doing, two it tires the defense out, three it allows for playaction and misdirection off of it. So I would much rather a jet sweep than the other options.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76634 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:56 pm to
Pitt WR Quadree Henderson: 54 carries, 555 yards (10.3 per carry/sweep), 5 TDs.

If LSU averaged 10 yards per toss dive, no one would have complained.
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
8635 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Canada LOVES him some jet sweep.


When Bret Bielema finally allowed Matt Canada to "unshackle" the offense in the 2012 B1G Championship Game, Melvin Gordon ran jet sweeps around Nebraska all night and finished with 216 yards on nine carries.

The Jet Sweep has been a staple for the Wisconsin offense since, and Canada is to thank.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72481 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Meh, he knows that stretching the field tires a defense out. It's really not that much different than what Tom Herman ran at Ohio State and Houston. A lot of runs and passes horizontally to tire out the defense and keep them guessing.




yep. it is called USING THE WHOLE FIELD. stretch them horizontally with jet sweeps, toss sweeps, bubble screens, etc, then gouge them vertically with runs and passes up/down the middle.
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10010 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

well a jet sweep is alot more effective than a short side option or toss dive.


Until we don't convert a third down using this play

quote:

The reason being is it one forces the defense to show what it is doing, two it tires the defense out, three it allows for playaction and misdirection off of it. So I would much rather a jet sweep than the other options


I understand the point of it. It's usually a nice wrinkle play, and LSU has used it effectively before with Chark and Dural. I've just never seen a coordinator who calls as many jet sweeps as Canada does.
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10010 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

The Jet Sweep has been a staple for the Wisconsin offense since, and Canada is to thank.



I remember Gordon and crew running a ton of these against us when we played in Houston a few years back. I wasn't sure if this started with Canada or coach Anderson.

Posted by Stud Bud
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Member since Sep 2015
6958 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:06 pm to
What a retarded fricking thread.

But, I'm not suprised.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72481 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

well a jet sweep is alot more effective than a short side option or toss dive.


a toss dive is a vertical play between the tackles usually for the A gaps, maybe B gaps. A jet sweep is a horizontal stretch play. Now the speed option is ok the problem is we mainly ran it to the short side and not far side with more room. It is still a horizontal strectch play also.
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10010 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

What a retarded fricking thread.

But, I'm not suprised.




Care to explain yourself or are you just here to offer nothing?
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:18 pm to
Ah, so you guys have started crawling out from under your rocks today.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83522 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:19 pm to
I love how you all are so sensitive, y'all see every post that isn't a circle jerk, as some huge negative post

Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12860 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:20 pm to
If integrated with other plays, where the jet sweep (or showing it) is part of a setup, then no problemo.

I refer to the Christian Kirk pass TD in our game this year. Lined up inside, motion across the formation. DB had to be aware it might be jet sweep (Donte Jackson) and was put at disadvantage. Kirk continued outside the numbers laterally and turned up on sideline for TD and had free release off LoS.

Run same play, TE or H back releases behind him for short pass after jet sweep motion clears space.

There's a balance. But if you run it enough instead as a 1-time a game 'hoping to break one' it serves a purpose for things other than running a jet sweep.

I love jet sweeps and jet sweep motions out of the pistol, it's a modern day triple-option with emphasis on passing.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

I watched about three of Pitt's games this year and Canada LOVES him some jet sweep.


I'm all for it, and also get ready for a lot of pre-snap motion and multiple formations to keep the defense guessing. At least our offense won't be the easiest one in the SEC to game-plan for anymore.
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10010 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

Ah, so you guys have started crawling out from under your rocks today.


What did I say that makes me one of "you guys"?
Posted by PRIMO30
Humble,TX
Member since Jan 2014
567 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:27 pm to
I just Charked my pants!!!
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