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re: Poor LSU; Poor Coach "O": only 52 active 4/5 Star players.

Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:36 am to
Posted by Pathway2dynasty
Member since Aug 2017
158 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:36 am to
LSU recruiting, breakdown by class, # of 4/5 star players signed: 2014: 17/ 2015: 13/ 2016: 18:/ 2017: 15.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:51 am to
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Stars dont mean anything. Kurt warner was a two star. Hall of famer
my point exactly. someone look up how many 5* players are at washington. peterson has it going on up there and you know it ain't because he's loaded with potential nfl talent like lsu is.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26114 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:56 am to
quote:

Troy has scared us before

Not me. The previous two games vs Troy the Tigers were flat or uninspired, and in 2008 were coming off a devastating OT loss to Bama. This time Troy is actually the Tigers' equal and poses a real threat.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

LSU recruiting, breakdown by class, # of 4/5 star players signed: 2014: 17/ 2015: 13/ 2016: 18:/ 2017: 15.


That's the number signed, totalling 63. I was wondering what the breakdown was of the 52 currently on the roster.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19802 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 1:57 pm to
The stars don't matter develop the player
Posted by RightHook
Member since Dec 2013
5560 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 3:59 pm to
good point. we hired coach o to avoid a rebuild. now we're stuck. if we wanted 8 or 9 wins with 10 every now and then (with a bowl game) we coulda kept miles. i don't see orgeron winning more than 10 games a year here, and it won't be on a regular basis.

lets hope brennan is the real deal. next year will be orgerons last if we aren't in the running for the west. this year should be about getting brennan ready for next year.

brennan will have two more years before the declaring and narcisse will have another year or two after that.

i've already written this year off, but it looks like we may have a good 3 to 4 year run with good qbs after this year.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28499 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

And what do stars mean exactly? Not a damn thing.


Stars are not the be all end all, but they are a pretty damn good representation of talent of the overall team. Thats why the top teams go hard after those specific players.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28499 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 5:22 pm to
I got bored today...comparison of stars and experience. (1=freshman, 4=senior) vs bama, auburn, And miss st and Syracuse for obvious reasons.


Make of it what you will. But I can say for certainty, our Oline should not be This bad.

OFFENSE


DEFENSE
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 5:23 pm
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
29939 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

omeone look up how many 5* players are at washington


peterson is 10x the coach O is
Posted by Pathway2dynasty
Member since Aug 2017
158 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:46 pm to
This deserves a fresh post. Good research. Facts are facts, and, Coach O and his supporters seem to be avoiding them.
Posted by Patches
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2005
336 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:56 pm to
Myles recruited no OL the last three to five years which is why he got canned. Until they get some OL that are worth a crap nothing will change regardless how many 5 stars they recruit.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
6065 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:14 pm to
That's just straight up false.
Go back and look those classes that you make this claim against.

Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35252 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:20 pm to
People love ignoring those charts. O supporters are running out of steam fast.
Posted by drdoct
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2015
1609 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:45 pm to
quote:

Make of it what you will. But I can say for certainty, our Oline should not be This bad.


But your chart is wrong. LSU is a young team. They start 20 Freshmen! I'm not sure if it's split 10 on defense and 10 on offense but that leaves 2 upper classmen. /s

Thanks for posting this chart. So many people just keep repeating the whole young team thing with no idea how far from the truth it is. If you listened to them you would think our whole team last year magically vanished and O had to start from scratch like Marshall had to.

In the end, everything is coach O's fault. He's the leader of the team. Even he says to blame him. I'm hoping he can pull it around. I don't have much faith and am not believing anything until I see decent results on the field. Had LSU come out and looked decent and handled MSU (and others) with a competent offense, then I think he would be given credit also. Maybe not from the real hardcore O haters, but from most of us, we were believing what he was saying.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
12998 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:25 pm to
On the flip side...Bama has

1 senior, 2 juniors, 2 sophomores.

......

Doesn't quite fit the narrative, does it?
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:10 am to
Stars are a guess. That's it. They go by size, and speed most of the time. That doesn't mean a whole lot. There have been a million 5* busts
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10432 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:28 am to
It's not a good SEC team
Posted by Dawgfan128
Jackson
Member since Sep 2017
1296 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:51 am to
How the fk is it hard to argue? It does not detail the breakdown. We could have 20 five stars and if they all are in the secondary, rb, and wr, guess what, we get smoked. But you knew that...you just enjoy the fk out of bashing o
Posted by Dawgfan128
Jackson
Member since Sep 2017
1296 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:55 am to
Fking ridiculous you guys that lie just to slam O. It should be bannable. Don't like him, that's fine. I don't. But the mf has a cess pool in the trenches and it is what it is. You lying mfs post some shite about a bunch of 4 and 5 star players....without looking at breakdowns and depth in specific agenda. I have zero respect for lying and or ignorant posters with an agenda. Ban these mfs.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:00 am to
this is nothing but another coach O bashing thread. the gross number of highly rated players on a team does not tell the whole story when you have huge OL deficiencies and depend on true freshmen at LB, OL and the secondary.

the good news is that these "babies" are getting both experience and maturity and will be a big asset in the future and we have a damn QB! If, and that's a big if, our OL can come around and we get lucky with returning guys this team can take a big step forward later in the year and the future.
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