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re: Please let's not "Jarrett Lee" Miles Brennan
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:00 am to CajunBattles
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:00 am to CajunBattles
I think you have it wrong about JLee. I don't think the 2008 season scarred him for life.
I think the 2008 season scarred Les Miles for life. After seeing his freshman QB booed by the fans he spent the rest of his career coaching them to avoid interceptions at all cost. He even tried to get running QB's. He coddled them and protected them at the expense of giving them opportunities to pass, and in the process Les passed his own insecurities on to them. Consequently none of our QB prospects (and reasonably ranked ones at that) were ever allowed to develop into good or even serviceable QBs. The only one that did well was Mettenberg, and he transferred in (having developed elsewhere).
I say keep giving Brennan some playing time with Etling the starter, but if Brennan moves the team better he should start. Les Miles isn't here anymore.
I think the 2008 season scarred Les Miles for life. After seeing his freshman QB booed by the fans he spent the rest of his career coaching them to avoid interceptions at all cost. He even tried to get running QB's. He coddled them and protected them at the expense of giving them opportunities to pass, and in the process Les passed his own insecurities on to them. Consequently none of our QB prospects (and reasonably ranked ones at that) were ever allowed to develop into good or even serviceable QBs. The only one that did well was Mettenberg, and he transferred in (having developed elsewhere).
I say keep giving Brennan some playing time with Etling the starter, but if Brennan moves the team better he should start. Les Miles isn't here anymore.
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:26 am to BigSlick
quote:Well, I was thinking more about the Staff and teammates. Especially his WRs, with whom he has to develop chemistry.
quote:
If everybody accepts it and tells themselves that it can be fixed, NOT avoided
Are you actually serious? On this board?
As long as they are all, and it takes all- including teammates, critiquing him and helping... especially when he makes mistakes, he'll reach his potential.
The worst thing that can happen is for him to feel isolated and alone. Like he's on his own. Most competitive players would rather get ripped on than nothing.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 6:42 am to Lsuchs
Can we Andrew Hatch him?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 7:22 am to Disgeaux Bob
quote:
Who in the frick down votes this ??
People that have seen more than just Jarrett Lee start as a freshman in college. Lee was a redshirt freshman at that who didn't start til a couple games in as well. Do you know how long of a list I can make just in the last 3 years (meaning I don't even have to list Manziel, Mariota, or Winston to get my point across), that have been successful as a true or redshirt freshman starting QB? They have been in every conference so don't give me shite about the defenses they play. They have been in several offenses, so don't give me shite about the offenses they run. They have played behind anywhere from putrid to elite OL, have had anywhere from inexperienced and untalented to truly elite and experienced pass catchers, and some didn't even have a running game they could fall back on.
The Lee debacle happened 10 years ago. You guys are like Les Miles because you think of modern college football like it was in the past.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 7:38 am to The Boat
quote:
People love to throw everything at Lee for the reasons why the 2008 team sucked. The defense was awful and couldn't stop a nose bleed. People like to forget but the offense was actually pretty decent with Lee at QB in 2008. We had a great O Line and Charles Scott tore it up at running back. The defense was an absolute disgrace and didn't help Lee any.
You also fail to realize how Lee was the problem too. In several games where Lee threw pick 6s, those were the deciding factors of the game.
LSU 38 UGA 52. Two of Lee's 3 picks went for TDs. That was that LBs only picks for the season, and UGA only intercepted the ball 11 times that year. Nobody else gave up more than two vs UGA and the only team that actually gave up two was Vandy who actually played @ UGA not at home like LSU did.
LSU 21 Alabama 27. Lee threw 4 picks and one was a pick 6. We had a chance to win at the end yet Lee threw his final pick to ice the game for Bama. Four of Bama's 15 picks was in that game, again, they weren't pick off specialists either.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 7:38 am to sicboy
quote:
Lee was a head case from the beginning.
Auburn 2008?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 8:03 am to CajunBattles
Int wasn't on him
Drake said himself 100% on him. Myles saw him and he cut inside as brennna threw it. Drake must recognize that his qb was in trouble. Myles gets that ball out quick. If Drake doesn't move it's another completion under pressure
Drake said himself 100% on him. Myles saw him and he cut inside as brennna threw it. Drake must recognize that his qb was in trouble. Myles gets that ball out quick. If Drake doesn't move it's another completion under pressure
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:19 am to TheHat7
Kid will be great, it will just take time! 
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:23 am to sicboy
quote:
Lee was a head case from the beginning. Let's stop making every freshman quarterback comparison a 1:1 to him.
Funny because that offense averaged 38 points a game in 2008. Our defense was what cost us games. If it wasn’t for Lee slinging it across the field in the second half, we would have lost to Troy. The dude was bound to make mistakes, but I remember seeing guys like Bird give up on routes resulting in a pick 6. I’m not sure why the coaches kept calling the same out route, knowing Lee was limited on his progressions as a Freshman.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:13 pm to Penrod
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Lee was not ruined by overexposure as a freshman. He just wasn't very good.
Lee's 2011 stats:
104-167
62.3 %
1306 yards
7.8 yards/attempt
14 TD
3 INT
152.0 rating (best in the SEC)
yea, terrible.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:16 pm to CajunBattles
Frick that.
After what I saw from the Texas quarterback (Ehlinger), I say if he's the best we've got, let him have at it.
After what I saw from the Texas quarterback (Ehlinger), I say if he's the best we've got, let him have at it.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:28 pm to 12Pence
Can we Sam Ehlinger him?
or how about Jake Fromm him?
Amazing what good coaches can do isn't it?
or how about Jake Fromm him?
Amazing what good coaches can do isn't it?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:52 pm to TigerLunatik
Miles and company mind fricked Lee. The kid was a baller and never had a bad word to say about LSU or Miles, even after Les shite all over him in 2011. Lee was one of the main reasons that LSU started out 8-0 in 2011. He led the SEC in QB efficiency until Miles pulled the rug out from under him after he had one bad outing. He deserved better than he got from the coaching staff. Hopefully, Orgeron and Canada know better than to throw Brennan out there behind a sub par OL, just to try to get the fans off their case.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:23 pm to Datbayoubengal
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The fact is we lost once that year, and it was to Bama in the NCG. starting Lee would have not given us a win no matter how much you cry about it. In fact he would have did even worse than JJ, which is hard to believe, I know.
But we'll never know for sure, because Les didn't try anything different. Whether Lee could've brought us back on 1/9/12 isn't really the issue. Maybe he couldn't. But LES DIDN'T EVEN TRY! And that's what's so infuriating.
You do realize that sometimes a new QB changes the energy level of the team and can light a spark.
It was the last game of the year for all the marbles. Les needed to try ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING to win. But he didn't.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:39 pm to CajunBattles
Jarrett Leeing someone is not a thing. There is only one Jarrett Lee.
I don't even think putting him in early affected him in the least. Its a bullshite theory.
I don't even think putting him in early affected him in the least. Its a bullshite theory.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:56 pm to atltiger6487
I say let Moose start and sling his balls all over the field
Posted on 9/26/17 at 6:00 pm to CajunBattles
I'm sure Jarrett Lee was no Moose. 
Posted on 9/26/17 at 6:18 pm to CajunBattles
Lee was a bad QB. Period. Can we stop bringing up this old, tired excuse?
It wasn't because he had to play too early and was scarred forever. We don't see people making excuses for Jordan Jefferson like this, and Jefferson had to play at an even earlier stage of his career than Lee.
(Lee was a redshirt freshman. Jefferson was a TRUE freshman.)
This shouldn't stop us from playing Brennan.
It wasn't because he had to play too early and was scarred forever. We don't see people making excuses for Jordan Jefferson like this, and Jefferson had to play at an even earlier stage of his career than Lee.
(Lee was a redshirt freshman. Jefferson was a TRUE freshman.)
This shouldn't stop us from playing Brennan.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 6:43 pm to CajunBattles
So, 4 pages & 3 days in and the score is almost tied.
1. Myles. Yes....my autocomplete didn't know who the kid was.
2. "No he didn't throw an INT". I'm fully aware that the route was botched, but the QB still gets the unfortunate stat.
3. "Baptism by fire" No, just no. Tell me the last success story of that happening at LSU. I'll wait because it wasn't recently.
4. QB development. You geniuses find it at LSU and I'm all for putting Myles in. I want the kid to succeed. He could very well be our turning point. But have some damn patience. This year became a hot mess real quick and it wasn't solely on Etling.
1. Myles. Yes....my autocomplete didn't know who the kid was.
2. "No he didn't throw an INT". I'm fully aware that the route was botched, but the QB still gets the unfortunate stat.
3. "Baptism by fire" No, just no. Tell me the last success story of that happening at LSU. I'll wait because it wasn't recently.
4. QB development. You geniuses find it at LSU and I'm all for putting Myles in. I want the kid to succeed. He could very well be our turning point. But have some damn patience. This year became a hot mess real quick and it wasn't solely on Etling.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:31 pm to CajunBattles
CajunBattles :
Your signature explains your intelligence. But I am happy you are hoping Brennan does well.
quote:
I'm not a Smart Fella, I'm a Fart Smella!
Your signature explains your intelligence. But I am happy you are hoping Brennan does well.
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