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Posted on 1/4/10 at 10:22 am
Posted by 12inches
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Posted on 1/4/10 at 10:22 am
On offense LSU averaged 59.31 plays per game, fewest of all 120 FBS teams. The NCAA average is 67.68 plays per game. So LSU ran about 8 few plays than the rest of college football. That,s 8 few opportunities to get the ball to the play makers and 8 fewer opportunities to score.

On Defense LSU averaged 70 plays per game. The NCAA average is 67.32 plays per game.

As a team LSU's defense was on the field for 20 more plays than the offense. So the opponents had 20 more chances to score. So based on those numbers I think the defense played very well this year.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44538 posts
Posted on 1/4/10 at 10:23 am to
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As a team LSU's defense was on the field for 20 more plays than the offense


now I'm no math major, but 70-59 = 20?
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
80157 posts
Posted on 1/4/10 at 10:25 am to
that's the new math they are teaching kids now
Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
12357 posts
Posted on 1/4/10 at 10:25 am to
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fewest of all 120 FBS teams

:fail:
Posted by TruLsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
8934 posts
Posted on 1/4/10 at 10:26 am to
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On offense LSU averaged 59.31 plays per game, fewest of all 120 FBS teams.
this is an embarrassment
Posted by Beauxcephus
Augusta, GA
Member since Aug 2005
4 posts
Posted on 1/4/10 at 10:54 am to
And we managed this great play average running a NO-HUDDLE offence!!!!!!
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22504 posts
Posted on 1/4/10 at 11:00 am to
So we averaged 20 plus less a game and still won 9 games. That's good, efficient coaching right there.
Posted by givemeabeer
Member since Mar 2006
3306 posts
Posted on 1/4/10 at 11:05 am to
112th ranked offense + third and chavis = this
Posted by Butterfingers
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
403 posts
Posted on 1/4/10 at 11:07 am to
Here are some key offensive stats. This was mid november when I put this together.

2009 2008 2007 2006
Total Plays per game 59 68 75 63
Opp plays per game 69 65 65 58
Avg Yds per game 310 368 439 417
Opp yds per game 311 325 289 243
Scoring 25 31 39 34
Opp Scoring 14 24 20 13
Posted by LSUownsSEC
OutOfTheArea
Member since May 2008
3178 posts
Posted on 1/4/10 at 11:13 am to
so the defense improved much so this past season but the offense is still sliding southward! i'd have to look at the CEO of this organazation and give him a pay cut. what do you say? isn't this the way it works in the normal business climate/world in our society?
Posted by Celeronsean
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Nov 2007
158 posts
Posted on 1/4/10 at 11:17 am to
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So we averaged 20 plus less a game and still won 9 games

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here.
Posted by JR
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2005
1215 posts
Posted on 1/4/10 at 11:41 am to
quote:

As a team LSU's defense was on the field for 20 more plays than the offense. So the opponents had 20 more chances to score. So based on those numbers I think the defense played very well this year.


Don't you think if the defense could stop more people on third down, and get off the field faster, this would change a lot? I feel the defense is just as much to blame as the offense.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 1/4/10 at 11:46 am to
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So we averaged 20 plays less a game and still won 9 games. That's good, efficient coaching right there.


Play differential was a major issue for me all season but the point can be made that with all the problems this team had they still won 9 games.

negatigers: Talent alone


positigers: All Les Miles

realistigers: combination of both and improvement getting off the field on d and keeping drives alive on O could lead to a very good season next year
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21652 posts
Posted on 1/4/10 at 11:50 am to
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Don't you think if the defense could stop more people on third down, and get off the field faster, this would change a lot? I feel the defense is just as much to blame as the offense.


I don't think they're just as much to blame as the offense, but the defense should definitely be taking more heat than they are. I don't care about rankings and statistics; football games are won/lost by both offenses and defenses. When Miles realized that the offense was going to be as shitty as it was (after the Florida game at the latest), then he should have instructed Chavis to get more aggressive to attempt to help his offense have a shorter field to drive.

And, BTW, if Chavis had followed Pelini instead of Maleveto, we'd all be bitching about this bend but don't break defense. The bad offense is overshadowing the defense right now.
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
5981 posts
Posted on 1/4/10 at 12:20 pm to
I was concerned after the UW game that defense would not improve --- no 3 and outs that game --- but they played very well this season and seem to be on the way up.

That said, the stats in this post really don't mean much in isolation. Did we have quick scoring drives when we scored (this team did not maintain drives well so I bet we did)? Did we have a lot of 3 and outs (I'll bet we rank high there)? What was our rank in avg starting position? Yards gained?

Not trying to excuse the offensive performance this year but stats in isolation really don't mean that much.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56342 posts
Posted on 1/4/10 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

Don't you think if the defense could stop more people on third down, and get off the field faster, this would change a lot? I feel the defense is just as much to blame as the offense.


The defense was well better than average in 3rd down conversions. It's not nearly as big an issue as you think it is.
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
52535 posts
Posted on 1/4/10 at 12:34 pm to
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The defense was well better than average in 3rd down conversions. It's not nearly as big an issue as you think it is.


We finished 10th in the SEC in opponents' third down conversion %.

ETA: only Vandy and Kentucky allowed higher %s of third down conversions.
This post was edited on 1/4/10 at 12:37 pm
Posted by LSUownsSEC
OutOfTheArea
Member since May 2008
3178 posts
Posted on 1/4/10 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

I was concerned after the UW game that defense would not improve --- no 3 and outs that game --- but they played very well this season and seem to be on the way up.

That said, the stats in this post really don't mean much in isolation. Did we have quick scoring drives when we scored (this team did not maintain drives well so I bet we did)? Did we have a lot of 3 and outs (I'll bet we rank high there)? What was our rank in avg starting position? Yards gained?

Not trying to excuse the offensive performance this year but stats in isolation really don't mean that much.


i think there is one important stat and that is playing time comparisons. from the Defensive guys time on the field VS the Offensive guys time on the field. imho, there is a real need for more balance here or Offensive control of the game to keep a fresh Defense on the field when they do play. that is the way championship coaches coach their teams. "Watch an you shall see" i'd bet that there are more 3 and outs!
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56342 posts
Posted on 1/4/10 at 12:37 pm to
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We finished 10th in the SEC in opponents' third down conversion %.


the difference between 4th and 10th was an extra stop every 2.4 games. 4th-10th were packed together. 36% is not a terrible %. It is much better than average.

Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
52535 posts
Posted on 1/4/10 at 1:03 pm to
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quote:


We finished 10th in the SEC in opponents' third down conversion %.




the difference between 4th and 10th was an extra stop every 2.4 games. 4th-10th were packed together. 36% is not a terrible %. It is much better than average.


It was my understanding that there would be no math! I don't think you can minimize the possible effect of 5 more stops. Of course, none of us know which 5 possessions or what would have happened after the failed third down conversion (convert on 4th or punt 4 plays later, etc), because it is hypothetical, but 5 stops can't be ignored IMO. Not arguing with you, just saying.
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