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Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:57 am to tigerskin
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Hooray. Contract for life
What? Les deserved to be fired. That doesn't mean the O hire is acceptable in any way, shape or form.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:58 am to TheCaterpillar
quote:Anyone who doesn't acknowledge that guys look unprepared physically are blind. This has the look of a team that didn't give a shite until last Saturday. And even then they almost lost to a bad Florida team.
He gets blame for having soft, unmotivated, and out of shape players, which includes the OL.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:58 am to tigerskin
You're downplaying the fact that we lost to Troy by saying Les almost did. Y'know... the guy we just fired. But hey, he didn't talk like us so frick em
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:00 pm to tigerskin
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Returning from a crew that couldn’t open holes for Fournette......who is killing it with the Jaguars. “Returning” doesn’t mean good enough. Hence the problem
What in the holy hell are you talking about? We led the nation in yard before contact.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:00 pm to tigerskin
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Attrition also happened because they were not quality players.
I will somewhat agree that we should have stayed on Teuhema’s arse about going to class. Fine, I could change the thread title to “little” instead of zero.
Again, I'm not saying they were all conference players but you can't on one hand say "it takes time for a lineman to develop so our freshmen are going to struggle" while also saying the guys who had been in the program for multiple years would not have provided better depth.
Bottom line, we would be better with those guys here and without freshmen playing so many snaps. That can't be argued. It also can't be argued that we should have a better option at LT than Malone. The latter is on Miles, but not the former.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:00 pm to abellsujr
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. Has O proven that he's the man to fix these supposed issues?
Can we let the man have one full year of recruiting at least? He pulled a decent class with the interim tag being on his head most of the year, just think if the fan's attitude toward the program became positive what he could bring in. If the fans act like this recruits will turn away no matter who is coach. Saban's first goal when he got here was to change the attitude and the rest fell into place. Please guys, just get behind the coach and show your support and good things will happen.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:01 pm to tigerskin
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Miles had a big comeback in 4th quarter to beat Troy 24-20. Yay
And O didn't . . .
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:03 pm to tigerfoot
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Three returning starters and a left guard with experience. Not exactly a bare cupboard
3? Who? We have one returning starter and one returning starter that is playing a new position and one player coming off of injury last season that has 4 total starts in his career at LSU.
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1- KJ has 5 starts LT in '17; 0 starts in '14 (5 games LT, 65 snaps) & '15 (12 gm, 62 snaps) & 12 starts in '16
2- Clapp 6 starts at C; 12 starts LG, 11 starts RG (0 starts/0 snaps at C coming into the season)
3-Weathersby 5 starts RT; 12 games in '15 (1 start RT) & 8 games in 16' (3 starts RT)
Experienced LG?
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Brum has 6 starts LG; 0 starts in '15 & '16, 160 total snaps
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:04 pm to SportTiger1
I am not talking about against sisters of the poor. I am talking about against Alabama and Florida.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:04 pm to Placebeaux
I have said that the most important thing is recruiting and I'm severely worried about it.
If things don't improve from that standpoint, this little experiment could do some long term damage.
And I will support the Tigers and root for them to win always, but I don't have much hope because of what I've seen so far.
And you guys shouldn't blame us tbh. O has to prove himself before people can have faith because this is not a guy who has ever proven himself at anything before.
If things don't improve from that standpoint, this little experiment could do some long term damage.
And I will support the Tigers and root for them to win always, but I don't have much hope because of what I've seen so far.
And you guys shouldn't blame us tbh. O has to prove himself before people can have faith because this is not a guy who has ever proven himself at anything before.
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:08 pm to MOT
Bottom line is which starters on OL will get drafted high? Not good enough
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:08 pm to Placebeaux
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Yes they are. Any LSU fans jumping O's arse about the current situation need to STFU. This is a rebuild, either get on board or enjoy 1990-1999 again.
I agree, and I think many would, that there's a problem and a rebuild needed. Therefore, O is either:
1) A Liar
2) Inadequate as a head coach because he didn't know there was a problem
He must be one or the other. Even if everyone agrees there's a talent hole, O wasn't talking about that. He was talking about competing right away, that's what I good portion of the fan base, O, and Alleva, sold. "Any idiot can win 10 games with these players/We'll be competing for the playoffs."
Which one?
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:09 pm to tigerskin
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We can say what we want about a lot of other things, but those 2 issues are on Miles.
But wasn't O recruiting Coordinator???
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:09 pm to Placebeaux
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He pulled a decent class with the interim tag being on his head most of the year, just think if the fan's attitude toward the program became positive what he could bring in. If the fans act like this recruits will turn away no matter who is coach.
You know what REALLY turns away recruits? Hiring a career DL coach and failed head coach to replace the guy who brought your program to its longest period of sustained success.
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Please guys, just get behind the coach and show your support and good things will happen.
That's all it takes? Blindly support O and the recruiting class he's currently assembling WON'T be stocked with 3-stars and he'll magically not be a dogshit coach? I'll still be at every home game yelling for the team, but I will not "support" (whatever that even looks like) this buffoon being LSU's head football coach. Because I actually give a shite about LSU football. Anyone who does should feel the same way.
Side note - can we make it a bannable offense to mention O and Saban in the same breath? Saban had built a reputation as a brilliant defensive mind and had taken the ashes of Michigan State following a period of probation and brought them to a top-10 finish. There is quite literally nothing even vaguely comparable about the two individuals. TIA
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:10 pm to tigerskin
You are conveniently forgetting the Olineman that transferred out this offseason. For them to let highly rated potential starters leave is on O.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:12 pm to baobabtiger
Yep. That's actually a part of recruiting to try and keeps guys here.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:13 pm to baobabtiger
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You are conveniently forgetting the Olineman that transferred out this offseason
Didn't you hear, they all suck.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:14 pm to Placebeaux
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Saban's first goal when he got here was to change the attitude and the rest fell into place
The rest fell into place? The attitude change was accompanied by a coach that demanded perfection because he had the knowledge to demand it. You ever hear of the phrase "it takes know how to show how?" Orgeron doesn't have know how, that's where the entire construct falls apart.
Ultimately, the players obviously like Orgeron, but that's entirely separate from if they respect him as an authority about the game of football. His role is better suited for one that once operated a high level with hands on experience but has since delegated responsibilities to assistants.
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Please guys, just get behind the coach and show your support and good things will happen.
That's not how good things happen. They deliver results and then they earn the trust of the fans.
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:17 pm to tigerskin
“Not an O apologists”
I don’t understand how a coach on staff since 2015, in charge of recruiting for a period, intern coach/HC since 2016 can have “ZERO” blame for anything!
Didn’t we lose out on 7 of the top 10 La. HS recruits just this past 2017 recruiting yr? Is that on Miles too?
You sure you are not an apologist???
I don’t understand how a coach on staff since 2015, in charge of recruiting for a period, intern coach/HC since 2016 can have “ZERO” blame for anything!
Didn’t we lose out on 7 of the top 10 La. HS recruits just this past 2017 recruiting yr? Is that on Miles too?
You sure you are not an apologist???
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