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tigerskin
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Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
We can say what we want about a lot of other things, but those 2 issues are on Miles.

Not an O apologist. I just think we need to be fair about why we have some of the problems we have.


jlovel7
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
Orgeron is 100% the reason we are ass. That and Joe Alleva.


Tunasntigers92
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
Well he's the fricking head coach, so he sort of is to blame.


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ProjectP2294
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
What about all the OL that have left the team since he took over? Who gets the blame for that?

Or the fact that he had an opportunity to hire his own OL coach but kept the same one? Why doesn't he get blame for that?


HighRoller
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
How many offensive linemen left after O took over? 3?


sjmabry
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
Maybe, but Orgeron needs to go.


tigerskin
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
Who other than Teuhema would have started?
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supersaints9
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
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Not an O apologist.






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tigerskin
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
I have no problem with getting rid of Grimes but no OL coach would have come in here and had a bunch of freshmen overpowering people right now.

Jimmies and the Joes


GeauxDoc
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
Not the point...your thesis is that O is not responsible for the current OL. It seems to me the loss of OL personnel, starters or not, is on the current coach.


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225rumpshaker
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
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Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
Nope I blame him for not addressing issues that caused an exodus of offensive lineman in the off-season. Miles wasn't around for that FWIW.


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LSUStar
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
I think he gets some credit for the transfers that occurred under his watch. I agree that CLM had completely fricked the Oline, Dline and QB situation, but O is not blameless.


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INFIDEL
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
O gets a large amount of blame for both. First, Etling may be looking worse then he was last year. You may say that's Canada's fault, but I would say that by being Canada's fault it is O's fault. He's the HC.

There have been O linemen leaving since O took over. Young guys are missing blocking assignments. Gameplans and schemes have not been changed to adjust to lack of experience. All that falls on O's head.

We lost to TROY. TROY had a line almost as young as ours and just as inexperienced. NONE of those players would ever have been recruited to a program like LSU. They still pushed our shite in. That is absolutely O's problem.

The fact that they played better against Fl proves to me that it was a scheme/prep problem and not a talent problem.


225rumpshaker
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
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Who other than Teuhema would have started?
Chidi Valentine-Okeke saw playing time in 11 games before transferring, I would argue he would be contributing now if not starting. Who knows maybe even Willie Allen could have contributed on the two deep as well.


CubsFanBudMan
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
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Who other than Teuhema would have started?


Why are people so focused on starters? How many snaps a game does the average #2 OL get? If a player left and would be #2, then that forces a #3 to play that amount of snaps, or that the #1 play gets more snaps and is worn down at the end of the game.

O knows we need more depth on both lines, and hopefully he can bring in a mix of top high school talent and JC transfers.


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wfallstiger
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
Horseshat....he knew what he was getting himself into...the good, the bad, the ugly and had ample time to configure the style/manner of play.

Quit giving the goofball a pass. He SOUGHT this job. No need to feel sorry or make excuses for his sorry performance as a HC who is way in over his head...kiddie pool donning floaties is too deep for this guy

He is paid quite well for the poor play seen to date.


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RB10
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
No head coach ever deserves zero blame for issues within their program.

You want to make the big boy bucks? You put on the big boy pants. It's as simple as that.


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tigerskin
LSU Fan
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21399 posts

re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
No. Allen sucks


225rumpshaker
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Texas
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
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Jimmies and the Joes
If he knew they lacked on the lines dating back to last season why did he not seek to address those issues with his last recruiting class. Meaning sign some JC guys that could contribute on the lines for this current season. Or did he only realize the depth concerns when people showed up in the fall?


justice
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re: Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
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We can say what we want about a lot of other things, but those 2 issues are on Miles.

Not an O apologist. I just think we need to be fair about why we have some of the problems we have.
poor les even he doesn't coach he gets shite on.

O kept grimes on staff so yes I blame orgeron. As far as qbs etling looks to have regressed in my opinion so yes orgeron is to blame

When the team blows this falls on the head coach. No if ands or butts


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