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Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:34 am
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:34 am
We can say what we want about a lot of other things, but those 2 issues are on Miles.
Not an O apologist. I just think we need to be fair about why we have some of the problems we have.
Not an O apologist. I just think we need to be fair about why we have some of the problems we have.
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:35 am to tigerskin
Orgeron is 100% the reason we are arse. That and Joe Alleva.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:36 am to tigerskin
Well he's the fricking head coach, so he sort of is to blame.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:36 am to tigerskin
What about all the OL that have left the team since he took over? Who gets the blame for that?
Or the fact that he had an opportunity to hire his own OL coach but kept the same one? Why doesn't he get blame for that?
Or the fact that he had an opportunity to hire his own OL coach but kept the same one? Why doesn't he get blame for that?
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:36 am to tigerskin
How many offensive linemen left after O took over? 3?
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:36 am to tigerskin
Maybe, but Orgeron needs to go.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:39 am to ProjectP2294
Who other than Teuhema would have started?
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 10:40 am
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:40 am to tigerskin
quote:
Not an O apologist.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:41 am to ProjectP2294
I have no problem with getting rid of Grimes but no OL coach would have come in here and had a bunch of freshmen overpowering people right now.
Jimmies and the Joes
Jimmies and the Joes
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:42 am to tigerskin
Not the point...your thesis is that O is not responsible for the current OL. It seems to me the loss of OL personnel, starters or not, is on the current coach.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:43 am to tigerskin
quote:Nope I blame him for not addressing issues that caused an exodus of offensive lineman in the off-season. Miles wasn't around for that FWIW.
Orgeron gets ZERO blame for current OL and QB situation
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:43 am to tigerskin
I think he gets some credit for the transfers that occurred under his watch. I agree that CLM had completely fricked the Oline, Dline and QB situation, but O is not blameless.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:44 am to tigerskin
O gets a large amount of blame for both. First, Etling may be looking worse then he was last year. You may say that's Canada's fault, but I would say that by being Canada's fault it is O's fault. He's the HC.
There have been O linemen leaving since O took over. Young guys are missing blocking assignments. Gameplans and schemes have not been changed to adjust to lack of experience. All that falls on O's head.
We lost to TROY. TROY had a line almost as young as ours and just as inexperienced. NONE of those players would ever have been recruited to a program like LSU. They still pushed our shite in. That is absolutely O's problem.
The fact that they played better against Fl proves to me that it was a scheme/prep problem and not a talent problem.
There have been O linemen leaving since O took over. Young guys are missing blocking assignments. Gameplans and schemes have not been changed to adjust to lack of experience. All that falls on O's head.
We lost to TROY. TROY had a line almost as young as ours and just as inexperienced. NONE of those players would ever have been recruited to a program like LSU. They still pushed our shite in. That is absolutely O's problem.
The fact that they played better against Fl proves to me that it was a scheme/prep problem and not a talent problem.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:45 am to tigerskin
quote:Chidi Valentine-Okeke saw playing time in 11 games before transferring, I would argue he would be contributing now if not starting. Who knows maybe even Willie Allen could have contributed on the two deep as well.
Who other than Teuhema would have started?
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:45 am to tigerskin
quote:
Who other than Teuhema would have started?
Why are people so focused on starters? How many snaps a game does the average #2 OL get? If a player left and would be #2, then that forces a #3 to play that amount of snaps, or that the #1 play gets more snaps and is worn down at the end of the game.
O knows we need more depth on both lines, and hopefully he can bring in a mix of top high school talent and JC transfers.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:46 am to tigerskin
Horseshat....he knew what he was getting himself into...the good, the bad, the ugly and had ample time to configure the style/manner of play.
Quit giving the goofball a pass. He SOUGHT this job. No need to feel sorry or make excuses for his sorry performance as a HC who is way in over his head...kiddie pool donning floaties is too deep for this guy
He is paid quite well for the poor play seen to date.
Quit giving the goofball a pass. He SOUGHT this job. No need to feel sorry or make excuses for his sorry performance as a HC who is way in over his head...kiddie pool donning floaties is too deep for this guy
He is paid quite well for the poor play seen to date.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:49 am to tigerskin
No head coach ever deserves zero blame for issues within their program.
You want to make the big boy bucks? You put on the big boy pants. It's as simple as that.
You want to make the big boy bucks? You put on the big boy pants. It's as simple as that.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:49 am to 225rumpshaker
No. Allen sucks
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:49 am to tigerskin
quote:If he knew they lacked on the lines dating back to last season why did he not seek to address those issues with his last recruiting class. Meaning sign some JC guys that could contribute on the lines for this current season. Or did he only realize the depth concerns when people showed up in the fall?
Jimmies and the Joes
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:49 am to tigerskin
quote:poor les even he doesn't coach he gets shite on.
We can say what we want about a lot of other things, but those 2 issues are on Miles.
Not an O apologist. I just think we need to be fair about why we have some of the problems we have.
O kept grimes on staff so yes I blame orgeron. As far as qbs etling looks to have regressed in my opinion so yes orgeron is to blame
When the team blows this falls on the head coach. No if ands or butts
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