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re: Orgeron cared more about his buyout than his salary. - Mike Detillier
Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:21 pm to adamb2151
Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:21 pm to adamb2151
quote:
he wanted a significant buyout due to lessons he learned at USC.
The problem isn't even giving him the buyout....
It's the rational in the first place. How is that even logical?
"You should secure my payment because I learned good at USC."
Has anyone ever negotiated a salary based on "I learned some lessons,"?
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:22 pm to adamb2151
To play devils advocate it’s reasonable for O to be worried about the buy out. He knew at the first stumble people would be calling for his job. The buyout gives him job security.
Smart on O’s part to be worried about a buy out dumb on Alleva’s part to let him have it.
Smart on O’s part to be worried about a buy out dumb on Alleva’s part to let him have it.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:22 pm to Freauxzen
quote:
"You should secure my payment because I learned good at USC."
I think what he meant was that Orgeron learned to negotiate a buyout from his experiences at USC. I guess USC did not give him a 12 mill buyout?
Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:23 pm to beauchristopher
quote:
why didn't alleva get upset with him and move on over it...
Because Joe had to make a big splash and hurry up and announce a coach before Texas could.
Boy, I guess he really showed that Tom Herman guy, huh?
Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:24 pm to Tunasntigers92
Already set up for life. LSU got SCAMMED AGAIN because of ALLEVA.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:24 pm to Godfather1
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Because Joe had to make a big splash and hurry up and announce a coach before Texas could.
Boy, I guess he really showed that Tom Herman guy, huh?
This is it right here. LSU had leverage. Alleva did not.
Orgeron and his agent knew that Alleva was trying to rush to a deal to beat Texas to the punch.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:25 pm to Tunasntigers92
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Making sure he's set up for life, after getting run out of here.
fricker knew coming in this was going to be his last stop.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:27 pm to Godfather1
quote:
fricker knew coming in this was going to be his last stop
Yep, basically knew he was in over his head going into it.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:29 pm to Godfather1
Yep, this will be his last stop. Too bad he’s taking LSU down.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:30 pm to adamb2151
Lol alleva is a total moron. He had all the leverage.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:30 pm to adamb2151
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I guess USC did not give him a 12 mill buyout?
Considering that USC didn’t even hire him as their head coach, I’m not sure what lessons he could have learned there.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:33 pm to sjmabry
Maybe he'll coach at Mandeville high after this.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:35 pm to Brummy
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So he knew up front that everyone would want him gone early?
He knew up front that he was a shitty coach and would fail at tgis
Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:35 pm to adamb2151
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Detillier stated Orgeron did not care what his salary was but he wanted a significant buyout due to lessons he learned at USC. Detillier also implied that Orgeron worked over Alleva in the contract negotiations.
Now 0 can stay fly for life with a fresh pair of Dulac Nikes for everyday of the week until he dies. He's gonna be the freshest baw on da bayou nah! Ain't dat right T-Derek? Luke at dem souls baw! Ain't dem dey clean?!
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:36 pm to adamb2151
Of course he did. He knows he sucks and would be on the hot seat.
I'm convinced he's trying to get fired because it's easier that actually being a good coach. .
I'm convinced he's trying to get fired because it's easier that actually being a good coach. .
Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:42 pm to adamb2151
Alleva DGAF he's making $725K/yr and he's 65 yr old.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:47 pm to LSUEnvy
Remember when Alleva wouldn't negotiate with Fischer or Herman because they wanted to hire someone who wanted to be here and not someone who wanted to make a lot of money and negotiate?
If Alleva was as willing to give the first two what they wanted as he was willing to give O with zero fricking leverage then maybe we would have a top flight coach right now.
Good lord fire both of these arse clowns
If Alleva was as willing to give the first two what they wanted as he was willing to give O with zero fricking leverage then maybe we would have a top flight coach right now.
Good lord fire both of these arse clowns
Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:47 pm to LSUEnvy
The more I think of this buyout issue, the more angry I become.
I swear, it seems unbelievable.
I pride myself on being civil, but something tells me if I ever met Alleva I'd call him a moron to his face.
I swear, it seems unbelievable.
I pride myself on being civil, but something tells me if I ever met Alleva I'd call him a moron to his face.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:52 pm to wildtigercat93
Imagine the conversation
"Hey yah baw were not rebuilding were gonna win championships! Just gonna fix some mistakes Miles was making!!"
"Okay let's talk numbers. I'll give you 3.5 mill and a normal buyout, let's say 4 million."
"Hold up now yaw yaw. I need some insurance like Miles got. In case you unprecedently fire me in the first year. Dats worth 12 million dollars baw"
"But you just said we aren't rebuilding, and you said you love this university and would never leave, why would you need insurance of us firing you given the expectations you put into the binder"
"I'm glad you brought up the binder baw. Turn to page 14 and it clearly states that in case something does go wrong next year, it ain't my fault because the players suck because it's Miles fault. It's foolproof"
"Holy shite I didn't think about that O. I'll give you 12 million! You're a genius!"
*coach O mumbles inaudibly under his breath*
"Dat was easier than I thought."
"Hey yah baw were not rebuilding were gonna win championships! Just gonna fix some mistakes Miles was making!!"
"Okay let's talk numbers. I'll give you 3.5 mill and a normal buyout, let's say 4 million."
"Hold up now yaw yaw. I need some insurance like Miles got. In case you unprecedently fire me in the first year. Dats worth 12 million dollars baw"
"But you just said we aren't rebuilding, and you said you love this university and would never leave, why would you need insurance of us firing you given the expectations you put into the binder"
"I'm glad you brought up the binder baw. Turn to page 14 and it clearly states that in case something does go wrong next year, it ain't my fault because the players suck because it's Miles fault. It's foolproof"
"Holy shite I didn't think about that O. I'll give you 12 million! You're a genius!"
*coach O mumbles inaudibly under his breath*
"Dat was easier than I thought."
Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:59 pm to adamb2151
Or maybe he wanted to make sure he got a fair chance to do the job?
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