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Oregon State's deliberate pace
Posted on 6/3/12 at 3:09 am
Posted on 6/3/12 at 3:09 am
I understand baseball can be a slow game and all but tonight Oregon State was ridiculous. Their starting pitcher would just stall on the mound even with no one on base. I get the mound meetings but that was also excessive.
Did the Alex Box Stadium crowd have that much of an effect on them?
Did the Alex Box Stadium crowd have that much of an effect on them?
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Posted on 6/3/12 at 3:14 am to GoldenBoy
I am not sure if Childs was trying to keep our hitters out of rythym or try to frustrate our fans. It should not take a 8 1/2 inning ballgame 3 hours and 16 minutes to complete. It was almost typical of a Redsox/Yankee matchup where a 9 inning game runs around 4 hours.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 3:26 am to MottLaneKid
quote:Agreed - I don't know if there is a provision in NCAA baseball to have the umps huddle with both coaches and tell them to speed it up. I know there is a 30 second rule - didn't look like it was enforced tonight or is that only for the batter?
I am not sure if Childs was trying to keep our hitters out of rythym or try to frustrate our fans. It should not take a 8 1/2 inning ballgame 3 hours and 16 minutes to complete. It was almost typical of a Redsox/Yankee matchup where a 9 inning game runs around 4 hours.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 3:38 am to skinny domino
In SEC play, the pitcher has 20 seconds btwn pitches unless the batter asks for time and it is granted.
I think you are correct. There was no enforcement to keep the game moving along freely. Once a team is down by 5 or 6 runs, what good does it do to stall ? I could understand if the game was tied in the 9th with the bases loaded, and the pitcher was laboring a little bit. If the game is on the line, it might make sense for the pitcher to collect himself and make sure he gets the signs correctly, then pitch the ball.
I think you are correct. There was no enforcement to keep the game moving along freely. Once a team is down by 5 or 6 runs, what good does it do to stall ? I could understand if the game was tied in the 9th with the bases loaded, and the pitcher was laboring a little bit. If the game is on the line, it might make sense for the pitcher to collect himself and make sure he gets the signs correctly, then pitch the ball.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 6:21 am to GoldenBoy
He was having trouble seeing the signs from his catcher. That is when the catcher went to the signs like a 3rd base coach. He wasn't trying to stall.
Also the 20 second clock only runs when there are no runners on base. Runners on base no time limit.
Also the 20 second clock only runs when there are no runners on base. Runners on base no time limit.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 7:33 am to signalizer
sign I was at the game. He would waite till the crowd calmed down then pitch. The whole game he couldn't see the signs?
Posted on 6/3/12 at 7:34 am to gotygers
I was loving it when the LSU fans started chanting "Pitch Pitch Pitch Pitch."
Posted on 6/3/12 at 7:46 am to Red Stick Tigress
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I was loving it when the LSU fans started chanting "Pitch Pitch Pitch Pitch."
i thought they were saying 'bitch bitch bitch'
Posted on 6/3/12 at 8:28 am to detmut
So it's that why the 5th inning felt like a 9th. I wouldn't mind a rule-change in this. What a boring way to get an advantage.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 8:33 am to GoldenBoy
Does anyone know if he usually pitches like that? It appeared deliberate to take the crowd out of the game...
Posted on 6/3/12 at 8:42 am to GoldenBoy
I started watching a movie at 7pm, thinking that I would catch the last couple of innings of the game. I was right on the money. When the movie ended I caught the game in the 7th inning.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 8:48 am to GoldenBoy
quote:
I understand baseball can be a slow game and all but tonight Oregon State was ridiculous. Their starting pitcher would just stall on the mound even with no one on base. I get the mound meetings but that was also excessive.
Did the Alex Box Stadium crowd have that much of an effect on them?
The mound meetings were fine. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
The pitcher on the mound was using the slow pace as a tactic. College baseball has a lot of that Bush league type of stuff. There are several coaches in the SEC that do it.
I find it pathetic, but what are you going to do?
Posted on 6/3/12 at 8:49 am to BasClas
I left Washington DC about when the game started and still got in town in like the third inning.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 8:55 am to MottLaneKid
quote:
In SEC play, the pitcher has 20 seconds btwn pitches unless the batter asks for time and it is granted.
That rule is in effect for everyone now. The SEC is the only league that has agreed to have it visually posted. The crew chief will keep the time on the field. Although, he didnt do a good job last night of enforcing it, it IS a rule for everyone now and not just the SEC.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 9:00 am to LSUBASEBALL06
Hawthorne and Hannagrif mentioned in post-game that it was "west coast baseball" where teams try to slow down and control the game. Supposedly Cal St. Fullerton does the same thing, but I don't ever remember a game dragging like last night's did.
If they were trying to take the crowd out, it was effective, because in the mid-innings the atmosphere was like a mid-week game vs. Alcorn.
If they were trying to take the crowd out, it was effective, because in the mid-innings the atmosphere was like a mid-week game vs. Alcorn.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 9:06 am to GoldenBoy
quote:
I understand baseball can be a slow game and all but tonight Oregon State was ridiculous. Their starting pitcher would just stall on the mound even with no one on base. I get the mound meetings but that was also excessive.
It's not just OSU. Most West Coast teams pull that bush league stall tactic bullshite.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 9:29 am to GoldenBoy
it is possible, even probable from what i say, that they coached their guys to be deliberate as a means of dealing with the LSU crowd. for college baseball, the Box is a rowdy place (for big games). they tryed to chill in order to control their own emotions. like a golfer in a tournament. slo down, no hurry, etc
Posted on 6/3/12 at 10:06 am to LSUBASEBALL06
quote:
That rule is in effect for everyone now. The SEC is the only league that has agreed to have it visually posted. The crew chief will keep the time on the field. Although, he didnt do a good job last night of enforcing it, it IS a rule for everyone now and not just the SEC.
That explains why there was no clock. I was mentioning it during the game, but no one knew why.
Although, I was counting from when the catcher caught the ball to the next pitch, and he never went over 15 seconds, much less 20.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 10:23 am to LSUBASEBALL06
quote:
That rule is in effect for everyone now. The SEC is the only league that has agreed to have it visually posted. The crew chief will keep the time on the field. Although, he didnt do a good job last night of enforcing it, it IS a rule for everyone now and not just the SEC.
They said on the radio call last night that the rule is not in effect for the post season.
This post was edited on 6/3/12 at 10:24 am
Posted on 6/3/12 at 10:24 am to GoldenBoy
That was by design; Beavers said they felt they had to keep LSU (and its crowd) from getting comfortable; not particularly impressed with their pitching and that's what they've been crowing about.
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