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Ole Miss vs. LSU and the tourney
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:25 am
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:25 am
Can someone explain to me why Ole Miss is still supposedly considered for the tourney yet LSU is on the bubble still. Does LSU not have a better record and did they not beat Ole Miss twice?
I'll hang up and listen.
I'll hang up and listen.
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Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:27 am to ST.TAMMANYTIGER
LSU is above Ole Miss on Lunardi's projections and was so even before Ole Miss's loss last night.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:28 am to ST.TAMMANYTIGER
Who said this? It should be the other way around. Ole Miss is on the bubble with their loss to USCe, and we're solidly in at this point.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:29 am to ST.TAMMANYTIGER
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After their loss they are on bubble and we are in by most new bracket projections I have seen that are updated as of this AM.
After their loss they are on bubble and we are in by most new bracket projections I have seen that are updated as of this AM.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:29 am to CheerWhine
Well, that's what I read all over this board.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:31 am to ST.TAMMANYTIGER
Can't help you there. But usatoday and cbs have new one up as of this am and lunardi ESPN may be updated soon.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:31 am to ST.TAMMANYTIGER
Head-to-head is way down the list of things the committee considers. So is conference finish. It's about your record against RPI teams, strength of schedule, etc.
Head-to-head is essentially a tiebreaker used if all other things are equal. I think RPI is even used not to rank where you fall among teams but as a way to evaluate who you've played. In other words, LSU's RPI of whatever (say 50) is not to say LSU is 50, but it's to say Texas A&M has 2 wins against the top 50 (LSU is in the top 50).
Not saying that's the way it should be, but rather the way it is. Last I checked, Lunardi had LSU above Ole Miss in the pecking order BEFORE Ole Miss' lost yesterday.
And the head-to-head irrelevance will work in LSU's favor regarding Texas A&M. Tigers will probably get in before Aggies despite the two losses because the Aggies haven't beaten anyone with a higher RPI than LSU.
Head-to-head is essentially a tiebreaker used if all other things are equal. I think RPI is even used not to rank where you fall among teams but as a way to evaluate who you've played. In other words, LSU's RPI of whatever (say 50) is not to say LSU is 50, but it's to say Texas A&M has 2 wins against the top 50 (LSU is in the top 50).
Not saying that's the way it should be, but rather the way it is. Last I checked, Lunardi had LSU above Ole Miss in the pecking order BEFORE Ole Miss' lost yesterday.
And the head-to-head irrelevance will work in LSU's favor regarding Texas A&M. Tigers will probably get in before Aggies despite the two losses because the Aggies haven't beaten anyone with a higher RPI than LSU.
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 9:34 am
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:32 am to ST.TAMMANYTIGER
well you shouldn't get info from this board. It ranges from in solidly to bubble to probably a few that believe we are out.
we aren't in the last four in, all the teams around us have pretty much lost so far and the small conf. tourneys are going as planned. even with some upsets we should still be fairly safe considering a&m and ole miss are currently behind us and both already lost.
we aren't in the last four in, all the teams around us have pretty much lost so far and the small conf. tourneys are going as planned. even with some upsets we should still be fairly safe considering a&m and ole miss are currently behind us and both already lost.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:34 am to ST.TAMMANYTIGER
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Can someone explain to me why Ole Miss is still supposedly considered for the tourney yet LSU is on the bubble still. Does LSU not have a better record and did they not beat Ole Miss twice?
what rock are you hiding under bro, this is some bad info you have
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:37 am to ST.TAMMANYTIGER
Probably in the aftermath of the Tennessee loss, then. Since that game, we've gotten a road win at a ranked team (Arky), and Ole Miss has lost 2 straight to non-tournament teams (Vandy, USCe). Enough for us to switch places.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:38 am to Ignignot
Before Ole Miss lost 4 of their last 5, yes they were ahead of LSU because they had a higher RPI, some quality wins and no losses to 200+ RPI teams. But after their last 5, I think the consensus is that they are squarely on the bubble and if they get in will play in the Opening Round, while LSU is considered safely in at a 10 (maybe a 9). Now, we can solidify that today or take a step backwards.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:54 am to ST.TAMMANYTIGER
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Can someone explain to me why Ole Miss is still supposedly considered for the tourney yet LSU is on the bubble still. Does LSU not have a better record and did they not beat Ole Miss twice?
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The RPI is ignorant..........but is the measuring stick
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