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O Line is and has been the problem.....
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:49 pm
We have the best two RB's in the country and we rush for 50 yards? Don't care how great another team's d line is, it all starts up front. The greatest scheme in the world won't solve bad coaching and poor recruiting.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:52 pm to jeff70121
quote:Our O-line is good enough for our running backs to run over everyone elses dicks all year long.
We have the best two RB's in the country and we rush for 50 yards? Don't care how great another team's d line is, it all starts up front. The greatest scheme in the world won't solve bad coaching and poor recruiting.
You dumbasses need to realize this isnt on the o-line. The Bama defense will always attack any o-line relying on a pro-set power setup. It doesnt matter who it is. You have to gameplan against it
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:53 pm to jeff70121
Les Miles is an awesome recruiter...
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:53 pm to lsupride87
So youre saying that Jeff grimes should be fired and we are fine at ot
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:56 pm to JRBayoutiger
quote:I am saying our o-line is not the issue.
So youre saying that Jeff grimes should be fired and we are fine at ot
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:14 pm to lsupride87
We don't have any true tackles to be able to run anything besides what we run. Les never recruited any and we are stuck with what we've got, guards they are trying to make into tackles.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:20 pm to lsupride87
Then, list our tackles, not converted guards.....
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:23 pm to lsupride87
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Our O-line is good enough for our running backs to run over everyone elses dicks all year long.
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I am saying our o-line is not the issue.
I don't mean to start an argument, but there are numerous other threads where folks are making a very valid argument that the O-line is absolutely the problem.
That's different than saying "our players suck". They don't. But they're mostly playing outside their natural positions and haven't necessarily had the best coaching up 'till now to teach them the right skills for the position they're currently playing. Nor have they played in an offensive scheme that had any chance against the really talented defensive teams we were to face this year (like the Gumps).
So, I respectfully suggest that it's entirely appropriate to say the OLine cost us the game without showing any disrespect for the players on that line.
Just my two cents, and peace out my fellow Tiger brother.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:24 pm to lsupride87
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I am saying our o-line is not the issue.
It's scheme and our OL is taught to be a power run OL. What a college team needs to stop Bama is an offense much like te Saints that uses multiple formations that essentially hide any type of tendencies that the offense might have.
Bama would have nightmares dealing with three WR bunch formations inside the numbers closer to the tackle. Whom do you cover and do you key on the RB....don't forget about the TE, etc.
Miles was using a Bo/Woody style of offense. Saban understands those offenses. Orgeron could not overhaul overnight
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:54 pm to KiwiHead
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It's scheme and our OL is taught to be a power run OL. What a college team needs to stop Bama is an offense much like te Saints that uses multiple formations that essentially hide any type of tendencies that the offense might have. Bama would have nightmares dealing with three WR bunch formations inside the numbers closer to the tackle. Whom do you cover and do you key on the RB....don't forget about the TE, etc. Miles was using a Bo/Woody style of offense. Saban understands those offenses. Orgeron could not overhaul overnight
This is actually a well thought statement. It is unfortunate that our present scheme has our O-line looking more like tuba players rather than football players.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:17 pm to lsupride87
O line is one of the biggest problems. No holes to run through. Too much penetration on both runs and passes. Rushers on the qb, even in quick passing situations. No scheme will consistently let you move the ball when these are persistent issues. The last memorable O line for me is Lael Collins last year at LSU.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:20 pm to lsupride87
I saw Josh Boutte knocked back on his butt and the Alabama player run over top of him. Play it back and look.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:42 pm to jelester
quote:Thats fricking great guys. Our O-line has been enough to run the hell over every other team we play. Our o-line is no worse than most teams that manage to score on Bama, with some of those teams scoring 40+......
I saw Josh Boutte knocked back on his butt and the Alabama player run over top of him. Play it back and look.
All of a sudden, the easiest fix seems to be the o-line? That is ridiculous. The scheme we run is asinine against them, and sets the line up for failure.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:02 pm to jeff70121
You're 100% right and are about to be bombarded with retards calling for harris to take Etlings place.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:03 pm to jeff70121
need to work on some fundamentals of pass blocking...LG stepping forward to engage DT is not how to pass block...when Etling was intercepted in the 4thQ Clapp steps forward to engage the DT thereby opening up a gap in the offensive line...as a result Etling gets his clock cleaned...bad timing for sure...and this sack was right after a play that I have been waiting for for what seems like my whole life...a tight end delay pass for a first down.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:05 pm to eastside45ydln
How about the power play when we had our RT and LG matched up with 2 LBs and both olineman whiffed on their blocks? Lol it's comical how bad they are.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:06 pm to jeff70121
I honestly think Fournette sometimes has trouble hitting the hole and deciding when to commit to going ahead instead of laterally. His vision leaves a bit to be desired.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:13 pm to Madking
Thanks, it's so obvious.
Look at the lesser opponents we face and how long it takes us to get going. This line takes at least a quarter, maybe a half to get going. Why is that? They should dominate from play 1, but that's not the case.
It's just a shame that a once in a lifetime talent like Leonard Fournette couldn't run over a few Bama DB's. Man, that would have been sweet!
Put an average QB behind a really good line with really good RB's, WR's, TE's and you have a very productive offense even against the best d-lines around.
Look at the lesser opponents we face and how long it takes us to get going. This line takes at least a quarter, maybe a half to get going. Why is that? They should dominate from play 1, but that's not the case.
It's just a shame that a once in a lifetime talent like Leonard Fournette couldn't run over a few Bama DB's. Man, that would have been sweet!
Put an average QB behind a really good line with really good RB's, WR's, TE's and you have a very productive offense even against the best d-lines around.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:19 pm to jeff70121
This all goes back to les and grimes and they're idea of best 5 reguardless of position. To run his offense all you had to do was block the man in front of you and don't even worry about pass protection because the only time we would throw was when we absolutely had to. So now we have everybody playing out of position and trying to run more complex stuff and against teams that make you pay or dominant dlines and we simply can't.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:23 pm to lsupride87
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You dumbasses need to realize this isnt on the o-line. The Bama defense will always attack any o-line relying on a pro-set power setup. It doesnt matter who it is. You have to gameplan against it
You'd think by now this simple fact would be obvious, but they are dumbasses, after all. It's simpler to scream about the OL or Moffett.
Other teams have scored on Bama. None of them run a dinosaur offense like LSU. LSU offense hasn't really been successful against Bama since 2007. 2012 put up some yardage but few points. Were the OL of Utah, Ohio St, Texas AM, and Ole Miss so much better than LSU's?
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