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Numbers for 4 SEC QBs in their first year as starters...
Posted on 7/27/16 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 7/27/16 at 12:25 pm
I posted this in another thread, but wanted to post by itself. Just for fun, lets look at these 4 players in their first year starting in the SEC:
Brandon Harris (sophomore):
149/277 - 53.8% - 2165 yards - 7.8 y/a - 13 TDs - 6 INTs - 130.6 QBR
Dak Prescott (redshirt sophomore):
156/267 - 58.4% - 1940 yards - 7.3 y/a - 10 TDs - 7 INTs - 126.6 QBR
Zach Mettenberger (redshirt junior):
207/352 - 58.8% - 2609 yards - 7.4 y/a – 12 TDs – 7 INTs - 128.3 QBR
Jamarcus Russell (sophomore):
188/311 - 60.5% - 2443 yards - 7.9 y/a – 15 TDs – 9 INTs - 136.6 QBR
Hopefully this will relax some folks about our QB play this year. History, repeatedly, has shown the biggest strides in QB play come from year 1 to year 2. Lots of former SEC QBs we consider very good had very pedestrian years their first year starting.
Brandon clearly has the physical tools (arm, athleticism, smart kid). Lets just hope he progresses like some of these other guys.
Brandon Harris (sophomore):
149/277 - 53.8% - 2165 yards - 7.8 y/a - 13 TDs - 6 INTs - 130.6 QBR
Dak Prescott (redshirt sophomore):
156/267 - 58.4% - 1940 yards - 7.3 y/a - 10 TDs - 7 INTs - 126.6 QBR
Zach Mettenberger (redshirt junior):
207/352 - 58.8% - 2609 yards - 7.4 y/a – 12 TDs – 7 INTs - 128.3 QBR
Jamarcus Russell (sophomore):
188/311 - 60.5% - 2443 yards - 7.9 y/a – 15 TDs – 9 INTs - 136.6 QBR
Hopefully this will relax some folks about our QB play this year. History, repeatedly, has shown the biggest strides in QB play come from year 1 to year 2. Lots of former SEC QBs we consider very good had very pedestrian years their first year starting.
Brandon clearly has the physical tools (arm, athleticism, smart kid). Lets just hope he progresses like some of these other guys.
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 1:56 pm
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 12:26 pm to TheCaterpillar
Experience is key. He'll only continue to improve with game time experience.
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 7/27/16 at 12:30 pm to TheCaterpillar
Brandon Allen is another good one to add to your list.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 12:42 pm to tlsu15
1986 Tom Hodson
11 games 175/288 60.8%
2,261 Yards 7.9 Yds.Per Pass
19 TD's 8 Int's 142.9 Rating
1st Team All SEC
11 games 175/288 60.8%
2,261 Yards 7.9 Yds.Per Pass
19 TD's 8 Int's 142.9 Rating
1st Team All SEC
Posted on 7/27/16 at 12:45 pm to TheCaterpillar
Honestly, just look at numbers for underclassmen starters in the SEC. Obviously there are outliers like JFF, Tebow and Aaron Murray, but the vast majority are mediocre to terrible.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 12:45 pm to Malaysian Tiger
quote:
1986 Tom Hodson
11 games 175/288 60.8%
2,261 Yards 7.9 Yds.Per Pass
19 TD's 8 Int's 142.9 Rating
1st Team All SEC
A. Probably the best ever for a freshman QB in LSU history, so that's probably an unfair comparison.
B. The numbers are still not that far off.
C. Different era of football. Those numbers would not be close to 1st team All-SEC in 2016.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 12:50 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:
Brandon Harris:
149/277 - 53.8% - 2165 yards - 7.8 y/a - 13 TDs - 6 INTs - 130.6 QBR
Dak Prescott:
156/267 - 58.4% - 1940 yards - 7.3 y/a - 10 TDs - 7 INTs - 126.6 QBR
Zach Mettenberger:
207/352 - 58.8% - 2609 yards - 7.4 y/a – 12 TDs – 7 INTs - 128.3 QBR
Jamarcus Russell:
188/311 - 60.5% - 2443 yards - 7.9 y/a – 15 TDs – 9 INTs - 136.6 QBR
You should add:
Redshirt Freshman
Redshirt Sophomore
Redshirt Junior
Junior
Posted on 7/27/16 at 12:52 pm to Jester
quote:
You should add:
Redshirt Freshman
Redshirt Sophomore
Redshirt Junior
Junior
Good call
Posted on 7/27/16 at 12:54 pm to Jester
Harris did not RS
Posted on 7/27/16 at 12:54 pm to Salmon
quote:
Harris did not RS
Derp. True sophomore.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 12:55 pm to Jester
Fixed.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 1:40 pm to TheCaterpillar
Can you add the stats from the following year for those other 3?
Posted on 7/27/16 at 1:49 pm to Forty Arpent
Brandon Harris (sophomore):
Year 1 - 149/277 - 53.8% - 2165 yards - 7.8 y/a - 13 TDs - 6 INTs - 130.6 QBR
Year 2 - ??????? TBD ???????
Dak Prescott (redshirt sophomore):
Year 1 - 156/267 - 58.4% - 1940 yards - 7.3 y/a - 10 TDs - 7 INTs - 126.6 QBR
Year 2 - 244/396 - 61.6% - 3449 yards - 8.7 y/a - 27 TDs - 11 INTs - 151.7 QBR
Zach Mettenberger (redshirt junior):
Year 1 - 207/352 - 58.8% - 2609 yards - 7.4 y/a – 12 TDs – 7 INTs - 128.3 QBR
Year 2 - 192/296 - 64.9% - 3082 yards - 10.4 y/a - 22 TDs - 8 INTs - 171.4 QBR
Jamarcus Russell (sophomore):
Year 1 - 188/311 - 60.5% - 2443 yards - 7.9 y/a – 15 TDs – 9 INTs - 136.6 QBR
Year 2 - 232/342 - 67.8% - 3129 yards - 9.1 y/a - 28 TDs - 8 INTs - 167.0 QBR
Year 1 - 149/277 - 53.8% - 2165 yards - 7.8 y/a - 13 TDs - 6 INTs - 130.6 QBR
Year 2 - ??????? TBD ???????
Dak Prescott (redshirt sophomore):
Year 1 - 156/267 - 58.4% - 1940 yards - 7.3 y/a - 10 TDs - 7 INTs - 126.6 QBR
Year 2 - 244/396 - 61.6% - 3449 yards - 8.7 y/a - 27 TDs - 11 INTs - 151.7 QBR
Zach Mettenberger (redshirt junior):
Year 1 - 207/352 - 58.8% - 2609 yards - 7.4 y/a – 12 TDs – 7 INTs - 128.3 QBR
Year 2 - 192/296 - 64.9% - 3082 yards - 10.4 y/a - 22 TDs - 8 INTs - 171.4 QBR
Jamarcus Russell (sophomore):
Year 1 - 188/311 - 60.5% - 2443 yards - 7.9 y/a – 15 TDs – 9 INTs - 136.6 QBR
Year 2 - 232/342 - 67.8% - 3129 yards - 9.1 y/a - 28 TDs - 8 INTs - 167.0 QBR
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 7/27/16 at 1:52 pm to TheCaterpillar
Jamarcus started full time as a sophomore
Posted on 7/27/16 at 1:52 pm to TheCaterpillar
Thanks, but are you sure the QBRs are correct? Look at year 2 for Mett and JR. How does ZM have a better QBR than JR?
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 7/27/16 at 1:55 pm to Forty Arpent
quote:
Thanks, but are you sure the QBRs are correct? Look at year 2 for Mett and JR. How does ZM have a better QBR than JR?
They are literally copy and pasted from sports-reference.com. QBR is a weird formula that often doesn't make sense on the surface. I hesitated putting it on there.
There are efficiency portions that aren't really obvious.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 1:59 pm to Hot Carl
quote:
Jamarcus started full time as a sophomore
you're right, fixed
Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:03 pm to TheCaterpillar
I don't want to look up Jeffersons numbers because I feel like he got worse through the years
Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:16 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
quote:
I don't want to look up Jeffersons numbers because I feel like he got worse through the years
Look away if you're squeamish...
2009:
182/296 - 61.5 % - 2166 yards - 7.3 y/a – 17 TDs – 7 INTs - 137.2 QBR
112 rushes for 171 yards, 1.5 YPC, 1 TD
2010:
118/209 - 56.5 % - 1411 yards - 6.8 y/a - 7 TDs – 10 INTs - 114.7 QBR
123 rushes for 450 yards, 3.7 YPC, 7 TDs
2011:
61/100 - 61.0 % - 737 yards - 7.4 y/a – 6 TDs – 2 INTs - 138.7 QBR
75 rushes for 263 yards, 3.5 ypc, 3 TDs
Posted on 7/27/16 at 2:18 pm to TheCaterpillar
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