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re: No thread complimenting Mainieri for starting Glenn last night?
Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:47 pm to moneyg
Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:47 pm to moneyg
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It ignores the big picture, Glenn's past struggles
Had Glenn struggled the outing before sure, but he didnt. He basically got demoted for giving up 1 earned run in what was it 7 or so innings. i dont remember the inning count honestly.
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:48 pm to bbap
Topic of interest
Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:50 pm to Brageous
This is how advanced CPM's thinking is regarding getting McCune ready for the playoffs. He was quoted as saying he wanted to see if McCune was ready to be the first game starter in the regional, where LSU as a one seed would play the four seed. He's not just thinking of the playoffs in general, he's thinking bout specific game situations. And he did get feedback from Coach Dunn, who everyone here agrees is one of college baseball's best pitching coaches. He made an educated decision, not some roll the dice & let's see what happens decision.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:50 pm to bbap
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Had Glenn struggled the outing before sure, but he didnt. He basically got demoted for giving up 1 earned run in what was it 7 or so innings. i dont remember the inning count honestly.
I think the guy is saying that Glenn didn't get demoted. He's saying Mainieri didn't start him that Sunday so he could start him Thursday and keep Nola & Eades on their regular schedule.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:52 pm to EarthwormJim
Unlikely. McCune was supposed to start the sunday game vs Bama, but he was needed in the 16 inning game
Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:53 pm to EarthwormJim
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I think the guy is saying that Glenn didn't get demoted. He's saying Mainieri didn't start him that Sunday so he could start him Thursday and keep Nola & Eades on their regular schedule.
considering he wanted to start McCune the sunday of bama before the 19 inning game i think that it worked out that way was nice, but not what he had in mind at the time.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:54 pm to bbap
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considering he wanted to start McCune the sunday of bama before the 19 inning game i think that it worked out that way was nice, but not what he had in mind at the time.
I'm not saying the guy is right, just elaborating on his point of view.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:56 pm to bbap
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Had Glenn struggled the outing before sure, but he didnt. He basically got demoted for giving up 1 earned run in what was it 7 or so innings. i dont remember the inning count honestly.
Glenn has been up and down all year. It wasn't his first quality outing. Again, to pretend that only idiots can think that we could have improved the 3rd starter going into last week is just lying to yourself.
More importantly, the decision was clearly more about finding out what you have in McCune vs. demoting Glenn.
The bottom line is that I'm not saying that starting McCune was definitely the right decision based on all information. What I'm saying is that it certain was a reasonable decision given the information. So, criticizing it based on the way it turned out (McCune had a poor outing and Glenn has stepped it up) is misguided.
This post was edited on 5/3/13 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:56 pm to EarthwormJim
i hear ya. and i can somewhat get on board with him wanting to give mccune a start against a good opponent to see if he could eventually go against a 4 seed in the regional. i mean mccune hadnt been pitching bad up until sunday.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:58 pm to bbap
McCune was once our Friday night ace. I have no problem with giving him a Sunday start against a real team to see if he's up to it. CPM knew what he had in Glenn, and I'm not saying he gave up the series but I also don't think he was exactly worried about it. I think he was more concerned with learning what he had moving into post season.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 2:01 pm to EarthwormJim
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I think the guy is saying that Glenn didn't get demoted. He's saying Mainieri didn't start him that Sunday so he could start him Thursday and keep Nola & Eades on their regular schedule.
I'm not saying that. I'm saying this:
* Mainieri wanted to figure out what he had in McCune...and this was a reasonable desire for the big picture.
* Mainieri had reason to think that there was a chance he'd at least give Glenn competition for the spot...and this was a reasonable opinion based on McCune's progression and Glenn's inconsistency
* Mainieri was not simply upset with Glenn's performance and decided to just go to the next guy because it was time for Glenn to be demoted (ridiculous conclusion)
I don't think last weeks decision was made thinking about this week...but I do think that if Glenn had started last week, McCune would have started last night.
This post was edited on 5/3/13 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 5/3/13 at 2:03 pm to moneyg
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I'm not saying that. I'm saying this:
* Mainieri wanted to figure out what he had in McCune...and this was a reasonable desire for the big picture.
* Mainieri had reason to think that there was a chance he'd at least give Glenn competition for the spot...and this was a reasonable opinion based on McCune's progression and Glenn's inconsistency
* Mainieri was not simply upset with Glenn's performance and decided to just go to the next guy because it was time for Glenn to be demoted (ridiculous conclusion)
As for this week, I don't think last weeks decision played a part...but I do think that if Glenn had started last week, McCune would have started last night.
Ah, I got ya. I tend to agree.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 2:05 pm to moneyg
Agree that it wasn't really about demoting Glenn or finding a 4th starter. It was about possibly improving the #3. You can always develop a 4th guy in the midweek.
Glenn will obviously be the 3rd starter going forward, and McCune will be the 4th, "If Necessary" , odd schedule type starter.
Glenn will obviously be the 3rd starter going forward, and McCune will be the 4th, "If Necessary" , odd schedule type starter.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 2:07 pm to moneyg
i agree with most of that as well but you really dont know how cody would have taken it. not trying to say the kid is fragile but the way he has been up and down this year i didnt really like the timing of it considering he was coming off his best start probably since ULL.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 2:08 pm to MOT
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McCune will be the 4th
He's game 1 at a Regional type of pitcher. Someone to get you the win and save Nola for the Supers.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 2:08 pm to harry coleman beast
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Oh, look its Russian and his high horse
Russian on his high horse
HCB on his low horse
:beatdeadhorse:
Just in time for the Kentucky Derby this weekEND (with a Jim Hawthorne reference for good measure)
Posted on 5/3/13 at 2:10 pm to CajunFootball
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He's game 1 at a Regional type of pitcher. Someone to get you the win and save Nola for the Supers.
Game 1 will be Glenn, imo. I'm sure it may have happened somewhere along the line, but I can't ever remember us throwing below our #3 in game 1.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 2:11 pm to CajunFootball
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He's game 1 at a Regional type of pitcher. Someone to get you the win and save Nola for the Supers.
so you think Nola is not going to get a start in the regional?
Posted on 5/3/13 at 2:12 pm to moneyg
quote:Most were criticizing the decision before McCune pitched.
So, criticizing it based on the way it turned out (McCune had a poor outing and Glenn has stepped it up) is misguided.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 3:01 pm to bbap
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i agree with most of that as well but you really dont know how cody would have taken it. not trying to say the kid is fragile but the way he has been up and down this year i didnt really like the timing of it considering he was coming off his best start probably since ULL.
That's a pretty weak argument. And, if we are playing hindsight games, CLEARLY the opposite has happened, right? CLEARLY, the move helped Glenn put together a 2nd quality start in a row.
Also, playing the hindsight game, if Glenn throws exactly like he did last night against SC, we lose anyway (we were shut out)...and then if McCune would have thrown exactly as he did a week ago, we would have lost last night.
All of that is stupid and meant to point out how dumb hindsight criticism is.
The point is that Mainieri's decision wasn't dumb, or outrageous, or crazy. It was a calculated risk that didn't work out at a point in the season when a.) it was important to learn more about your McCune and b.) was at a time when we could afford to take on some risk.
There really was very little room for criticism, IMO.
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