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re: "No fullbacks" according to O - Why?
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:34 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:34 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
Make no mistake, somebody loses here. He is combining the fullback and tight end position, and combining those position groups. The only two guys he mentioned at media days were Moreau and Moore.
I think Moreau is your starting H-back, and he probably should be. He is tough, can run and hit, and can catch.
I think Moreau is your starting H-back, and he probably should be. He is tough, can run and hit, and can catch.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:51 pm to lsutigermall
quote:
Vernacular - Fullback, Halfback, Tailback are now used interchangeably.
Not even close man
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:58 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
quote:
"No fullbacks" according to O - Why? by ForeverEllisHugh
11 offensive players on the field
Years ago there were 5 linemen, 1 QB, 3 running backs, 1 tight end and 1 wide out. The offense was called the wishbone.
Today
11 offensive players on the field
5 linemen
1 QB
1 running back
4 receivers including TE
Few teams use fullbacks, tight ends are still used but not used as much as linemen like in the past
Spreading the field and read offensives are the trend.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:16 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
Just think Philip Lutzenkirchen but with the added dimension of running the ball occasionally.
If you were too young to see him play then you really have no reason to be griping about the FB position.
If you do remember him... you know exactly what I'm talking about. Dude could crush some blocks, and was a TD receiving machine.
I will point out too that last year when we began running between the tackles out of single back sets it worked pretty damn good.
If you were too young to see him play then you really have no reason to be griping about the FB position.
If you do remember him... you know exactly what I'm talking about. Dude could crush some blocks, and was a TD receiving machine.
I will point out too that last year when we began running between the tackles out of single back sets it worked pretty damn good.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:19 pm to LCTFAN
Bro I know what the wishbone is. I still don't get why we didn't just run it when we had Jefferson and Jennings.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:22 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
quote:I wanted to throw up almost every time I saw JJ run the option.
I still don't get why we didn't just run it when we had Jefferson and Jennings.
QB can't run away from LoS, just gilflirts everything. JJ would damn near everytime. If he pitched, RB was screwed because he's slowing down to stay behind him since he was drifting back.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:26 pm to jimbeam
Bc when they say this, it's said with the idea that the ball is the starting point....or basically putting yourself as the defense and asking what you see.
Both of those answers, in order, would be qb, H back, rb.
Both of those answers, in order, would be qb, H back, rb.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 12:53 am to Tiger Ree
quote:An H-Back is just a glorified fullback that does a lot more than "Old School" fullbacks did.
H-back: "The H-back often has to be versatile; as a backfield member, they can be lined up to act as a lead blocker on running plays. However, the H-back also fills the roles of a traditional tight end, catching passes over the middle and pass blocking when needed."
Of course, all the little drama queens on here that have never played even a little HS football, hype out over a "No Fullback" comment because they have no clue about football.
An H-Back is just a "Fancy" fullback that will be utilized much more under Canada.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 1:44 am to ForeverEllisHugh
Because he said so. Get a grip.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:32 am to ForeverEllisHugh
It really depends on what you mean by a fullback.
Back in the day there were fullbacks that were leading rushers:
Jim Brown, Jim Taylor, Franco Harris, Larry Csonka, among others
These guys ran the ball just as much as the TB or HB. They were mostly power runners, but some had speed as well (Jim Brown).
Back in the day there were fullbacks that were leading rushers:
Jim Brown, Jim Taylor, Franco Harris, Larry Csonka, among others
These guys ran the ball just as much as the TB or HB. They were mostly power runners, but some had speed as well (Jim Brown).
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:36 am to lsutigermall
quote:
Fullback, Halfback, Tailback
No, man... Just... No.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:41 am to semjase
Man I'm just always shocked at how many people in here really doesn't understand football.
This post was edited on 7/22/17 at 7:43 am
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:48 am to lsutigermall
Didn't Jacob Hester make his biggest impact running out of the fullback slot?
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:49 am to tarzana
quote:
Didn't Jacob Hester make his biggest impact running out of the fullback slot?
No. He didn't
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:34 am to ForeverEllisHugh
quote:
I still don't get why we didn't just run it when we had Jefferson and Jennings
The game is trending away from the power set and spreading the field forcing defenses to defend every square yard from sideline to sideline
My thoughts are teams can recruit the smaller athletic players that the top schools overlook due to size and utilize the smaller athletic players to their advantage. Some of these top schools have seen how effective these offenses are and how hard they are to defend and adjusting their offensive attacks.
Look at Alabama and the teams that have beaten them are considered wide open offenses spreading the field and not power I type teams.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:45 am to Slippy
U snow flakes worry too much, Give coach O a chance!!!
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:46 am to ForeverEllisHugh
quote:
i get that the
I-form was overused under Miles
I never understood the obsession with dogging on the use of the I-formation. I just hated how predictable the offense was.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:49 am to I20goon
quote:
Just think Philip Lutzenkirchen but with the added dimension of running the ball occasionally.
If you were too young to see him play then you really have no reason to be griping about the FB position.
Wouldn't you have to be like 5 years old to not remember Lutzenkirchen?
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:49 am to ForeverEllisHugh
quote:
Mouton made great strides in 2016.
Work with a cousin of Mouton. He says the last time he talked to him he said they are using him in the TE position in some of the formations now (He played some TE at Acadiana and actually has pretty good hands). Not sure if he meant lined up as a true TE or more like an H back. I think we shall see a much different usage of the backs with quite a bit more formation shifting than we have (purely speculation on my part, no sauces).
I wouldn't get too caught up in the nomenclature, different Coordinators and head coaches have different names for certain positions because of how they expect to utilize that position.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:54 am to msbargas
quote:
Back in the day there were fullbacks that were leading rushers:
Jim Brown, Jim Taylor, Franco Harris, Larry Csonka, among others
Yep, Joe Gibbs is the one who created the H-back position because of fullback John Riggins of the Washington Redskins.
"the best running back on the Redskins' roster was John Riggins, a fullback. Since Riggins and quarterback Joe Theismann were vital to the team at the time, the lesser used halfback was removed and replaced with an extra tight end. The standard notation was retained; however, this new tight end was still assigned the "H" symbol on play diagrams, hence the name "H-back" for the position."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-back
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