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re: "No fullbacks" according to O - Why?

Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:34 pm to
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
6567 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:34 pm to
Make no mistake, somebody loses here. He is combining the fullback and tight end position, and combining those position groups. The only two guys he mentioned at media days were Moreau and Moore.

I think Moreau is your starting H-back, and he probably should be. He is tough, can run and hit, and can catch.
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
88660 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

Vernacular - Fullback, Halfback, Tailback are now used interchangeably.

Not even close man
Posted by LCTFAN
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2013
2738 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:58 pm to
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"No fullbacks" according to O - Why? by ForeverEllisHugh


11 offensive players on the field
Years ago there were 5 linemen, 1 QB, 3 running backs, 1 tight end and 1 wide out. The offense was called the wishbone.

Today
11 offensive players on the field
5 linemen
1 QB
1 running back
4 receivers including TE

Few teams use fullbacks, tight ends are still used but not used as much as linemen like in the past

Spreading the field and read offensives are the trend.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12860 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:16 pm to
Just think Philip Lutzenkirchen but with the added dimension of running the ball occasionally.

If you were too young to see him play then you really have no reason to be griping about the FB position.

If you do remember him... you know exactly what I'm talking about. Dude could crush some blocks, and was a TD receiving machine.

I will point out too that last year when we began running between the tackles out of single back sets it worked pretty damn good.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14779 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:19 pm to
Bro I know what the wishbone is. I still don't get why we didn't just run it when we had Jefferson and Jennings.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12860 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:22 pm to
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I still don't get why we didn't just run it when we had Jefferson and Jennings.
I wanted to throw up almost every time I saw JJ run the option.

QB can't run away from LoS, just gilflirts everything. JJ would damn near everytime. If he pitched, RB was screwed because he's slowing down to stay behind him since he was drifting back.
Posted by SHMILL
The foothills of CO
Member since Oct 2009
995 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:26 pm to
Bc when they say this, it's said with the idea that the ball is the starting point....or basically putting yourself as the defense and asking what you see.

Both of those answers, in order, would be qb, H back, rb.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10872 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 12:53 am to
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H-back: "The H-back often has to be versatile; as a backfield member, they can be lined up to act as a lead blocker on running plays. However, the H-back also fills the roles of a traditional tight end, catching passes over the middle and pass blocking when needed."
An H-Back is just a glorified fullback that does a lot more than "Old School" fullbacks did.

Of course, all the little drama queens on here that have never played even a little HS football, hype out over a "No Fullback" comment because they have no clue about football.

An H-Back is just a "Fancy" fullback that will be utilized much more under Canada.

Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47355 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 1:44 am to
Because he said so. Get a grip.
Posted by msbargas
Ponte vedra beach FL
Member since Sep 2009
727 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:32 am to
It really depends on what you mean by a fullback.

Back in the day there were fullbacks that were leading rushers:

Jim Brown, Jim Taylor, Franco Harris, Larry Csonka, among others

These guys ran the ball just as much as the TB or HB. They were mostly power runners, but some had speed as well (Jim Brown).
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11651 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:36 am to
quote:

Fullback, Halfback, Tailback

No, man... Just... No.
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
88660 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:41 am to
Man I'm just always shocked at how many people in here really doesn't understand football.
This post was edited on 7/22/17 at 7:43 am
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26121 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:48 am to
Didn't Jacob Hester make his biggest impact running out of the fullback slot?
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:49 am to
quote:

Didn't Jacob Hester make his biggest impact running out of the fullback slot?


No. He didn't
Posted by LCTFAN
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2013
2738 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:34 am to
quote:

I still don't get why we didn't just run it when we had Jefferson and Jennings


The game is trending away from the power set and spreading the field forcing defenses to defend every square yard from sideline to sideline

My thoughts are teams can recruit the smaller athletic players that the top schools overlook due to size and utilize the smaller athletic players to their advantage. Some of these top schools have seen how effective these offenses are and how hard they are to defend and adjusting their offensive attacks.

Look at Alabama and the teams that have beaten them are considered wide open offenses spreading the field and not power I type teams.


Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:45 am to
U snow flakes worry too much, Give coach O a chance!!!
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:46 am to
quote:

i get that the
I-form was overused under Miles

I never understood the obsession with dogging on the use of the I-formation. I just hated how predictable the offense was.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:49 am to
quote:

Just think Philip Lutzenkirchen but with the added dimension of running the ball occasionally.

If you were too young to see him play then you really have no reason to be griping about the FB position.

Wouldn't you have to be like 5 years old to not remember Lutzenkirchen?
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29973 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:49 am to
quote:

Mouton made great strides in 2016.


Work with a cousin of Mouton. He says the last time he talked to him he said they are using him in the TE position in some of the formations now (He played some TE at Acadiana and actually has pretty good hands). Not sure if he meant lined up as a true TE or more like an H back. I think we shall see a much different usage of the backs with quite a bit more formation shifting than we have (purely speculation on my part, no sauces).

I wouldn't get too caught up in the nomenclature, different Coordinators and head coaches have different names for certain positions because of how they expect to utilize that position.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24538 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:54 am to
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Back in the day there were fullbacks that were leading rushers:

Jim Brown, Jim Taylor, Franco Harris, Larry Csonka, among others


Yep, Joe Gibbs is the one who created the H-back position because of fullback John Riggins of the Washington Redskins.

"the best running back on the Redskins' roster was John Riggins, a fullback. Since Riggins and quarterback Joe Theismann were vital to the team at the time, the lesser used halfback was removed and replaced with an extra tight end. The standard notation was retained; however, this new tight end was still assigned the "H" symbol on play diagrams, hence the name "H-back" for the position."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-back
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