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Myths that have now been resolved

Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:34 pm
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31157 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:34 pm
We don't have the talent to just lineup and beat lesser teams

8 wins is not an automatic at LSU regardless of HC

LSU doesn't just reload year over year

You can't just hire good coordinators and 'manage' them



Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72356 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:37 pm to
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We don't have the talent to just lineup and beat lesser teams



sure as frick did with miles!

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8 wins is not an automatic at LSU regardless of HC



it should be with PROVEN head coaches. O IS NOT PROVEN!! saban and miles set this standard. this is NOT pre-2000 LSU with shite facilities and when we spent NO MONEY on coaches.

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LSU doesn't just reload year over year


we still managed 8 wins a year since 2000! until now!


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You can't just hire good coordinators and 'manage' them



which is why we DID NOT want anymore CEO type HC. we wanted a guy who can call one side of the ball!
This post was edited on 10/1/17 at 12:38 pm
Posted by HMTVBrian2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
5760 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:38 pm to
Ed orgeron has not learned from his mistakes at ole miss and evolved into a legitimate head coach
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72356 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:39 pm to
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Ed orgeron has not learned from his mistakes at ole miss and evolved into a legitimate head coach




that much is apparent
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
4321 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:40 pm to
We win OOC home games.
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
9466 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:44 pm to
I can name 20 coaches without effort that could have this LSU team reach 8 wins. This is a terrible SEC and you have 4 wins built in against shite competition.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:45 pm to
O the disciplinarian


^ that’s my favorite
Posted by Milk
central
Member since May 2010
1042 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:46 pm to
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Ed orgeron has not learned from his mistakes at ole miss and evolved into a legitimate head coach




You have this wrong. At Ole Miss he micromanaged which was his main mistake.



Now hes hands off and making all new mistakes.

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46614 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:46 pm to
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We don't have the talent to just lineup and beat lesser teams 


we most certainly do with competent coaching.

troy has zero 4 star players
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34593 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:47 pm to
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We don't have the talent to just lineup and beat lesser teams
BS. LSU should never lose to Troy
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259525 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:48 pm to
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troy has zero 4 star players


They have better football players. Star ratings are based on projections, most 4 and 5* kids mature early.

LSU has great athletes, most of the football players left last year and are in the NFL
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31157 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:48 pm to
You're right. But we did.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:49 pm to
6th most talented team according to recruiting rankings past 4 years
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:50 pm to
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Star ratings are based on projections, most 4 and 5* kids mature early.

That's absurdly false
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46614 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:55 pm to
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They have better football players. Star ratings are based on projections, most 4 and 5* kids mature early. 

LSU has great athletes, most of the football players left last year and are in the NFL


i hope youre fricking kidding. good god.

its amazing how many people on here actually believe their opinion outweigh the opinions of people PAID to evaluate not only highschool but collegiate talent.

youre off your meds if you really believe troy has better football players than lsu.
Posted by cheeznet
Member since Nov 2015
267 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:07 pm to
I think some of you are missing the point. His point is that who the coach is actually does matter.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31157 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:08 pm to
Yep
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:11 pm to
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I think some of you are missing the point. His point is that who the coach is actually does matter.




Which shouldn't have taken getting a bad coach to figure out.

How many top programs have we seen ruined by a bad hire? Why people thought LSU was immune to that is beyond me. Whether people want to admit it or not, Les Miles did have some coaching talent to keep LSU where it's been for as long as he did, talent that Orgeron doesn't have and never has had.
Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
2656 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:14 pm to
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They have better football players. Star ratings are based on projections, most 4 and 5* kids mature early.

LSU has great athletes, most of the football players left last year and are in the NFL


B/S. They have much better coaches than LSU. Saban, Meyers, Dabo, and other GOOD coaches stay dominant using the same talent evaluation that LSU uses. LSU has O. That explains everything.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59039 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:19 pm to
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we most certainly do with troy has zero 4 star players

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BS. LSU should never lose to Troy


You guys are missing his point. Well Rick mentioned it at least. Coaching matters. You or i could not step into Alabama and win with their current roster We get too caught up in zero sum thinking coaches are either great or they suck. We let our simplistic view that you either win a title or you fail. We don't understand or like nuances. Lost in all the blizzard of Miles hate people are gonna realize the school doesn't just recruit it self, you can't just roll anyone out there and win with our talent.
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