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Miles like Coordinators who either have already been Head Coaches, or don't want
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:09 pm
to be.
He felt really burned by coordinators leaving and the potential for upheaval or bad choices. So he wants proven guys that are very unlikely to leave for a head job (mostly because they already had it and failed).
Crowton
Kraglethorpe
Cameron
All three had their shot and failed as HCs.
Chief - never wanted to be one.
Any name you hear, run it by this test. If it doesn't fit, dismiss it.
He felt really burned by coordinators leaving and the potential for upheaval or bad choices. So he wants proven guys that are very unlikely to leave for a head job (mostly because they already had it and failed).
Crowton
Kraglethorpe
Cameron
All three had their shot and failed as HCs.
Chief - never wanted to be one.
Any name you hear, run it by this test. If it doesn't fit, dismiss it.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:10 pm to Tigerstark
That philosophy helped Tulane hire Chris Scelfo instead of Rich Rodriguez.
Turned out to be a magnificent decision.
Turned out to be a magnificent decision.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:11 pm to TheBob
I'm not speaking to the intelligence of it, only that its the way he works.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:12 pm to Tigerstark
Miles not using intelligence to make decisions?
I am shocked.
I am shocked.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:15 pm to Hot Carl
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WTF?
Is it that difficult? He wants consistency at the coordinator position. He doesn't want a young guy with aspirations of leaving in three years to become head coach at Colorado State. He wants someone whose been involved in formulated offenses for 25 years, failed as a head coach, and is looking for a long term place to coach football. This time in reverse since its defense - like Chief was. In short, Les wants someone that will only leave when he tells them to. Otherwise, if they do a good job, he doesn't want them leaving to take on a head job somewhere.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:21 pm to Tigerstark
He also seems to lean towards seasoned (old) coaches
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:22 pm to Tigerstark
quote:when he first got the job he hired Pelini and convinced Jimbo to stay at OC, even though both had obvious HC aspirations. he hired chavis because he was the best available. and what makes you think Crowton or Kragthorpe didnt want another HC job?
I'm not speaking to the intelligence of it, only that its the way he works.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:25 pm to MastrShake
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hen he first got the job he hired Pelini and convinced Jimbo to stay at OC
That was before he felt burned by it. Pelini leaving and our subsequent 5 loss season convinced him that there is a lot of upheaval and risk when a coordinator leaves. He doesn't want to have to do it every 2-3 years when a guy gets his shot at HC.
I'm sure Crowton and Kragthorpe did want another head job - but neither were likely to be offered a head job since they had failed so miserable at it.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:26 pm to Tigerstark
You dumb frick. That's the best thing I can call you.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:28 pm to Tigerstark
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I'm sure Crowton and Kragthorpe did want another head job - but neither were likely to be offered a head job since they had failed so miserable at it.
So you're basically just basing the entire theory around Crowton's failing.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:32 pm to Tigerstark
he hired chavis because he was the best available and Crowton because he was a former NFL head coach and offensive coordinator of the year.
if you want to make up a bunch of other stuff besides that, by all means go for it
if you want to make up a bunch of other stuff besides that, by all means go for it
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:38 pm to MastrShake
He hired them because he believed they would do a good job. But don't think for a second that there aren't other qualities he's looking for. Such as being less likely to leave in 3 years.
Sure, because Cam didn't fail as a head coach and Kraglethorpe is revered in Louisville.
You guys can argue whatever you want, but its been true for 4 hires in a row. He won't bring in some young hot shot that will keep moving up the ladder. He'll bring in a guy thats either had his shot or doesn't want it, and is just happy being a coordinator at this point. That doesn't mean its not a good hire or that its the only criteria or anything else some of you morons are trying to subscribe to it.
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basing this all on Crowton's failing.
Sure, because Cam didn't fail as a head coach and Kraglethorpe is revered in Louisville.
You guys can argue whatever you want, but its been true for 4 hires in a row. He won't bring in some young hot shot that will keep moving up the ladder. He'll bring in a guy thats either had his shot or doesn't want it, and is just happy being a coordinator at this point. That doesn't mean its not a good hire or that its the only criteria or anything else some of you morons are trying to subscribe to it.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 1/1/15 at 10:43 pm to Tigerstark
You get that lots of guys get more than one shot to be a HC? When I say you're basing this around Crowton's failing I mean here, not when he was a HC.
Also there's not really anybody being suggested that fits your young hotshot criteria.
Also there's not really anybody being suggested that fits your young hotshot criteria.
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