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Miles and the running game

Posted on 9/14/14 at 11:31 am
Posted by DIGGY
Member since Nov 2012
1755 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 11:31 am
Lots of talk about spreading the field and the running game, more space etc. Miles does not necessarily gauge the success of the running game in terms of positive yardage or scores in the front half of games, to use a Milesism. To him it all comes down to the back end of the game, one of his most used terms. The running game is used only to wear down the opponent. Success is measured by defender hands on hips and lack of firing off the ball. TE is an extra OL and will never be a major part of the LSU passing game with an OC not named Crowton. The spread and space comes in the back half of the game like in Wisky game, once defenders are "worked over". This philosophy will give you 10-11 wins a year when coupled with a strong defense and will be a problem in 2-3 games a year. Coupled with a poor defense and it can lead to 4-5 losses a year. Sprinkle in explosive playmakers on special teams and defense like in 2011 and it can almost make you a NC. Overal a winning formula and almost guarantees a 10 win season which is the measuring stick for success with the current administration and a majority of the fan base. Mission accomplished!
Posted by LateArrivalforLSU
Ascension Parish
Member since Sep 2012
3512 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 11:35 am to
Nice paragraph usage.

To sum up all of what you said...Miles will either out-athlete you with the 3 yards and a cloud of dust approach, or we are screwed.

Most of the time, our athletes are superior to our opponents, therefore we don't need a lot of innovation and game planning.
Posted by Oh Lawd
Member since Sep 2014
497 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 11:35 am to
I'm really trying to gauge if this is some sort of flame or a positive analysis. We should be happy we have a formula that guarantees us 10 wins a year.
Posted by Blind Boy Grunt
Member since Mar 2013
822 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 11:35 am to
Most good teams will have a rotating Front Four. Fatigue will not be so much of a Problem.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39039 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 11:40 am to
quote:

This philosophy will give you 10-11 wins a year when coupled with a strong defense and will be a problem in 2-3 games a year.


One problem with your theory, Diggy. When LSU had the big arm last year they threw the ball more. In fact, we definitely lost the Ole Miss game because Miles didn't do what you say he always does.
Posted by TopsInAmericaTim
Houston Area
Member since Oct 2011
1403 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 11:43 am to
That might be the most well reasoned explanation of Miles-Ball I've ever seen. Great job and thank you.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32453 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 11:44 am to
If you only win 10 games a season your likelihood of a NC or even an SECC (especially coming from the SEC west), is almost impossible.
Posted by DIGGY
Member since Nov 2012
1755 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 11:45 am to
Penrod, was speaking only to the philosophy of the running game (ie running tight I formations and keeping things bunched in instead of spread out). My bad for not clarifying.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81570 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 11:47 am to
quote:

That might be the most well reasoned explanation of Miles-Ball I've ever seen. Great job and thank you.
Posted by DIGGY
Member since Nov 2012
1755 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 11:48 am to
Can't disagree, but 10 win seasons seem to be the measuring stick for this program from the current administration and a large portion of the fan base. Whether you use NC or SEC Titles as a measuring stick or 10 win seasons is up to each individual. Both are viewed as Success!!
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
10186 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 11:55 am to
Strong recruiting plus this philosophy = winning! Obviously, you have to have a deep, strong roster to accomplish it.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 11:56 am to
quote:

The spread and space comes in the back half of the game like in Wisky game, once defenders are "worked over".




Possessing the ball early in games wears teams out more than run, run, pass, punt. The only reason we spread it against Wisconsin was because we were behind and tried running out of power formation for almost 3 quarters with no success...but to you we wore them down
Posted by Woodford Reserve
Member since Jul 2014
203 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 11:59 am to
He wins.
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
11352 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:03 pm to
10 win seasons IS a measure of success and will never get a coach fired, nor should it. Sorry to disappoint you.
Posted by DIGGY
Member since Nov 2012
1755 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:03 pm to
Didn't say we did. Just said that this is Miles philosophy. Ask the Wisky DL who went out if he was worn down?
Posted by tilthatday
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2009
863 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:08 pm to
Hard to win championships if you don't win at least 10 games.
Posted by tilthatday
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2009
863 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:08 pm to
Hard to win championships if you don't win at least 10 games.
Posted by 911Moto
Member since Sep 2013
5491 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:11 pm to
This has worked well, obviously. There is one monkey wrench thrown into this philosophy: Texas A&M. With them in the SEC now, with the coach and his offensive philosophy, we may start losing too many skill position players to them to maintain our success. They are a bigger threat than Bama in this regard, and it will be interesting to see how it plays out over the next few years. If they show this year that the system still works without JFF,recruiting skill players becomes much harder. But, as always, I have faith in Les.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:11 pm to
Sounds like the kind of offense that will get you embarrassed in a championship game.
Posted by DIGGY
Member since Nov 2012
1755 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:17 pm to
Never said it wasn't. In fact in a later post in the thread I stated that. Sorry to disappoint you.
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