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Miles and the offense

Posted on 3/18/16 at 8:28 am
Posted by lsutiger74
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Posted on 3/18/16 at 8:28 am
Is he really changing his philosophy or this is more lies and bullshite from him?
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 8:31 am to
He does not need to change his philosophy. He needs to change the way they execute the philosophy. Still should be a power running team. You have a great running back and great backup running back, and a big and physical o-line. You also will have a great defense so ball control will be key. They need to change play design spread it out more and have pre snap motions but the philosophy should be the same.
Posted by UnAnon
Breaux Bridge
Member since Sep 2013
6433 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 8:33 am to
You too old for this
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42347 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 8:34 am to
It's a fine line, you do have Fournette and you can win games with him alone.
But to win against Bama you have to get creative if you can't line up and beat them at the line of scrimmage
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70890 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 8:35 am to
Agree

Don't lose your identity but at least be able to complete a forward pass when you decide to do it. Harris still should be under 30 passes a game IMO.

Still gotta find a way to get Fournette the ball besides a run too. He has great hands and so does Guice.
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 8:38 am to
Yes. He's changed from "fall" philosophy to "spring" philosophy thus more passing. Come August, we'll be back to "fall" philosophy. Then in November they'll realize they need a passing game and will put together a last minute attempt at a passing game. Because it's "last minute", it won't be executed properly and we'll blame the players. Go to a crappy bowl game in December. Then repeat the process.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57580 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 8:40 am to
A tiger never changes it's stripes.

He'll go back to running when the passing game isn't successful.
Posted by AustinTigr
Austin, TX
Member since Dec 2004
2937 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 8:46 am to
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Still should be a power running team. You have a great running back and great backup running back, and a big and physical o-line.


Works great against McNeese.
Not so much against Alabama.

If we can't reliably throw the ball, spread out the defense, and keep 'em guessing... we might as well give Bama the 'W' right now and use that weekend to prepare for Arkansas. Even then, that philosophy will have a 50/50 chance with the Razorbacks.
This post was edited on 3/18/16 at 8:49 am
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31157 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 8:50 am to
Wow
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 8:53 am to
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If we can't reliably throw the ball, spread out the defense, and keep 'em guessing... we might as well give Bama the 'W' right now and use that weekend to prepare for Arkansas.


I agree they need to pass the ball more. My thought is if you spread the field with 3 or 4 wide receivers you can still use your power running game even against Bama. You guys wanting Les to change his philosophy are going to be disappointed because he's not. What he can do is tweak his offense to utilize his power running while also having threats on the outside.

Look at Bama's offense they ran the ball more than LSU did last year but utilizing the spread formations along with pre snap motions it worked. It forces the middle of the defense outside and when LSU can get a hat on a hat they can block anybody including Bama.
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4361 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 9:18 am to
unanon 1 you sound like my daughter who switched from dish to cable !
Posted by CarterWilson717
If I told you, you would be dead
Member since Jun 2013
1518 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 9:30 am to
quote:

Don't lose your identity but at least be able to complete a forward pass when you decide to do it. Harris still should be under 30 passes a game IMO. Still gotta find a way to get Fournette the ball besides a run too. He has great hands and so does Guice.


100% agree with this statement. More screen plays would be nice. We need to find a way to get our skill players in space
Posted by crescentcity
Member since Feb 2015
1311 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 9:36 am to
quote:

He does not need to change his philosophy. He needs to change the way they execute the philosophy.


I guess philosophy doesn't matter at all then. Since it's just a matter of the team executing it.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 9:38 am to
quote:


I guess philosophy doesn't matter at all then. Since it's just a matter of the team executing it.


I meant the way the coaches execute it. Play design and play calling. They need to put the players in better position to execute what they want.
Posted by LMfan
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 9:39 am to
very original topic brah

enjoy your downvotes
Posted by UnAnon
Breaux Bridge
Member since Sep 2013
6433 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 9:55 am to
What's 2



Sorry about the Daughter btw.
Posted by marcnbc
Bossier City, LA
Member since May 2004
4172 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 10:07 am to
quote:

Harris still should be under 30 passes a game IMO.


Totally agree. Coker averaged 17/26 for 207 yds/game last year for Bama...very efficient, but not gaudy numbers by any stretch. He made plays with his arm & scrambling when he had to. Need the defense to get back to what LSU fans are use to seeing and somehow get creative in scheme and playcalling. CFP or bust this year.
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
7952 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 10:19 am to
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more lies and bull shite
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 10:24 am to
quote:

marcnbc
quote:

Totally agree. Coker averaged 17/26 for 207 yds/game last year for Bama...very efficient, but not gaudy numbers by any stretch. He made plays with his arm & scrambling when he had to. Need the defense to get back to what LSU fans are use to seeing and somehow get creative in scheme and playcalling. CFP or bust this year.


Coker threw for over 3,000 yards last year. LSU's had a grand total of two seasons with a QB that threw for 3,000+ in the last 20+ years.

In other words, the two greatest offensive seasons from a Quarterback in the Les Miles Era at LSU are comparable to last year's season from an Alabama QB who couldn't beat out a kid who repped at WR and RB during his time on campus and who got benched earlier in the year for a Freshman.

Think about that. It takes the best talent at the position we've ever had under Miles to measure up to the crappy, below-average, absolute Non-NFL-caliber players from Alabama.

Please...please don't compare what we're doing to Alabama. It's a painfully ill-fitting comparison.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 3/18/16 at 10:29 am to
quote:

Is he really changing his philosophy or this is more lies and bullshite from him?


As long as Les has been here in Baton Rouge, you haven't figured out that yet?
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