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re: Miles - An Ontological Journey

Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:38 am to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:38 am to
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Saban didn't make a "shift", he hired a OC thst had some baggage. Very few coaches had the political capital to hire Kiffen.


Exactly. Bama still runs a prostyle offense but with a change in playcalling. This notion that Saban has ahd this huge shift in offense is utter bullshite. They are still a defense 1st team that uses the run to set up the pass. They are still a run 1st team. They are still close to a 60 -40 run pass team.

College football isnt about innovation. Its about execution and getting talent. The most talented teams still win most of the big games.
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 11:39 am
Posted by victoire sécurisé
Member since Nov 2012
4817 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 11:52 am to
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this is unmitigated bull shite.

the information age has ZERO to do with college football.


You could argue that the "information age" has transformed the primary way that humans interact with each other and make decisions. Take this instant for example. We are communicating on a message board about LSU football. Granted, we aren't making much of an impact on people's decisions, but certainly the aggregate (Zeitgeist) from the online community does make a difference. It influenes recruits' decisions (see Mannie Netherly for a recent example). It steers the donations of influential boosters, and influences AD's hiring and firing decisions.

The fact that coaches have twitter accounts and that most athletic departments have an online media staff should tell you something of importance. From a more technical aspect, you should look into the depth of statistical analysis done in the videp room these days. See XOSDigital.com. It's phenomenal and has absolutely provided a technical advantage over those that don't employ these methods. It's like navigating the streets of an unfamiliar city with GPS vs. a paper map. One method is simply more effective.

As such, the "information age" has everything to do with everything. To deny this fact is a folly.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10439 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 12:25 pm to
In all honesty, Miles' flaw and refusal to change is focused largely on the offensive side of the ball, which is ironically his area of specialty.

He's shown an openness for change on the defensive side of the ball, but has just made bad to mediocre hires in many cases.

Saban did open up his offense once Kiffin came around, but fundamentally it is still rooted in the run game. The issue with Miles is two-fold. His poor choices on the recruiting trail, and refusal to sub out poor performers at the QB spot.

JJ was a perfect example of this. In his junior year, despite horrid play, he was trotted out there time and time again with Lee only getting spot duty or last ditch time to save the game. This only solidified JJ's belief that he was doing fine, and very little changed for him at that point.

When he did make the changes, Miles was always too late to the game, and put his players in a horrible situation (see Harris making his first start on the road against a top 6 team at the time).

Saban and other coaches didn't wait. They made changes and it worked out because the QBs felt a legitimate shot at starting and at being replaced. It brought out the best in them and showed they had the "chest" to use Miles' term. LSU, on the other hand, talks about chest and then babies their QBs to such a degree that they don't develop, and you have what you have. Add to that a man focused on a pro-style offense continually recruiting dual-threat QBs and you get the LSU you see now.
Posted by TigerBert
Member since Oct 2015
3018 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:07 pm to
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The fact that Les went and hired him, as he did with Pelini (a youngish rising coach), is completely ignored in this desire for 'change'


Not true. 2 "changes"/shifts are cited. Aranda hiring and Cam to sidelines.

Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
6213 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:24 pm to
Quote The Buddha,"When the student is ready, the maestro appears!" I have had my critical moments vs. CLM, but I think that all the planets have finally aligned for him to get his mind right...after all, winning college football game is 98% recruiting...reflect on Shorty and U.M....great recruiters...now, LSU is matching all comers in the recruiting department with the greatest recruiting staff in LSU history, bar none! The future is bright if this staff holds together for a couple of years...jmho
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
10469 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:47 pm to
Q: What does O'Reilly call this kind of talk?

A: BLOVIATING.
Posted by TigerBert
Member since Oct 2015
3018 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:04 am to
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,"When the student is ready, the maestro appears!"


This only applies where humility is also ready. Hoping and praying that has appeared as well.
Posted by TigerBert
Member since Oct 2015
3018 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:55 pm to
He flunked his ontology test with flying colors. Fire him immediately
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64581 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:59 pm to
It was fine bringing Cam down but then he brought everybody down..... even his players.
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