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re: LSU Tiger who has had the most success in the NFL
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:40 am to TexasTiger1185
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:40 am to TexasTiger1185
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TexasTiger1185
By your logic Robert Horry > Michael Jordan.
Just sayin that's wrong.
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:41 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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So what you're saying is that Chase Daniel > Dan Marino or Jim Kelley or Bert Jones or Y.A. Tittle? Rings are a team accomplishment and don't really mean anything individually; they can be hocked for drug money.
No, you're being too black and white about it.
I'm saying Peyton Manning> Marino. And the thing that really puts him above Marino is the one super bowl ring he has.
When you compare two players that are great (Not fricking backup qb's who are never going to start in the NFL) and you are looking at their careers. You've got comparable stats, one has more pro bowls and no super bowl rings and the other has a super bowl ring. The one with the ring gets the win.
I personally apply the rule to every position, not just QB's. shite Randy Moss has comparable stats to Jerry Rice. He's second in almost every category, except one of them won super bowls.
*I am, by no means making the argument that Moss>Rice, just using an example.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:42 am to dnm3305
Maybe it's just me, but being on a roster of a team that wins a championship is not individual success.
Don't forget, Johnny Robinson had nine All pro seasons, although this was in AFL days, in part. At the time, he was probably the best safety ever.
As a result of this discussion, the guys who rise to the top of my list are:
Winston
Robinson
Taylor
Faneca
Mawae
The best single season by an fmr. LSU player would be Bert Jones in 1976; however his career QB % is something like 78.
Don't forget, Johnny Robinson had nine All pro seasons, although this was in AFL days, in part. At the time, he was probably the best safety ever.
As a result of this discussion, the guys who rise to the top of my list are:
Winston
Robinson
Taylor
Faneca
Mawae
The best single season by an fmr. LSU player would be Bert Jones in 1976; however his career QB % is something like 78.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:42 am to TexasTiger1185
Rings are also a product of being on a good team. You could be the best at your position for 15 years and never win a Super Bowl but that doesn't mean you weren't a success.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:47 am to TxTiger82
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By your logic Robert Horry > Michael Jordan.
Stop being a jackass. Wheredid I say rings were the ONLY measure?
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:48 am to TxTiger82
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Rings are also a product of being on a good team. You could be the best at your position for 15 years and never win a Super Bowl but that doesn't mean you weren't a success.
ETA: Who had the most success (edited from 'best')?
Marino or Manning?
Marino or Brady?
Marino or Montana?
Marino or Young?
This post was edited on 5/3/13 at 10:55 am
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:52 am to TexasTiger1185
Marino had the most talent. Manning is the "best" one overall because of his approach.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:58 am to SaintlyTiger88
With a 15 year career as a RB (all with one team), Kevin Faulk has to be in the conversation.
Bert Jones needs mention as well.
Bert Jones needs mention as well.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:25 am to Godfather1
OK, I like Kevin Faulk, too.
However, his success does not measure up to some others mentioned here
Jim Taylor was also a RB in the NFL (for 9 yrs). Both had 3 NFL championships.
Faulk (11yrs) :
3600 yds rushing;
31 TDs (rushing and receiving);
4.2 YPC
Taylor (9 yrs):
8600 yards rushing;
83 TD's
6X All Pro
4.4 YPC
However, his success does not measure up to some others mentioned here
Jim Taylor was also a RB in the NFL (for 9 yrs). Both had 3 NFL championships.
Faulk (11yrs) :
3600 yds rushing;
31 TDs (rushing and receiving);
4.2 YPC
Taylor (9 yrs):
8600 yards rushing;
83 TD's
6X All Pro
4.4 YPC
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:37 am to nitwit
Dalton Hilliard was a better NFL back than Faulk.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:43 am to TxTiger82
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Rings
Taylor was on four NFL champion teams.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:25 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Johnny Robinson was All-AFL nearly his entire career, sits in the Chiefs' Hall of Fame and has a Super Bowl ring.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:25 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Kevin Mawae
Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:30 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Kevin Faulk...
Also, Eddie Kennison had a decent career. And Dwayne bowe had made a name for himself after only a few years in the league.
Also, Eddie Kennison had a decent career. And Dwayne bowe had made a name for himself after only a few years in the league.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:35 pm to toratiger
Bert Jones is my choice too. He was awesome for the Colts for many years.
His talent was mostly wasted while at LSU...sharing the load with much lesser talented QB's.
His talent was mostly wasted while at LSU...sharing the load with much lesser talented QB's.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:39 pm to Holden Caulfield
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Johnny Robinson was All-AFL nearly his entire career, sits in the Chiefs' Hall of Fame and has a Super Bowl ring.
I cannot believe he isn't in the HOF. Jerry Stovall had a damn good career as a DB for the St. Louis Cardinals, but was overshadowed by Larry Wilson. I can't believe all these people picking Kevin Faulk over Jim Taylor, Van Buren, or Tittle though.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:41 pm to chatuey
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Bert Jones is my choice too. He was awesome for the Colts for many years.
Bert followed a legend in Johnny Unitas and was the last good quarterback the Colts had until Peyton Manning.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:44 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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Faulk's three Superbowl rings say hey.
RANDALL GAY IS THE SECOND GREATEST TIGER EVER
Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:11 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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Bert followed a legend in Johnny Unitas
Marty Domres, technically
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