re: LSU RB Jeremy Hill Suspended (Updated 4/30 with Nola.com story)

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Vanderbilt has one arrest in 3 years

LSU has three

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So we are second only to Vandy in arrests (least amount) and graduation rate?

And we are a perennial powerhouse?

Miles

Thanks for posting that and frick all the posters saying this is a Les problem

Inb4 another sissy says none of the other arrests were guys hitting someone from behind

Two bar fights got LSU three arrests

Two bar fights in three years.

That's pretty much it.

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Two bar fights got LSU three arrests

Two bar fights in three years.

That's pretty much it.

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But it can't be. Les has no control

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The owner doesnt get blamed, THE COMPANY GETS SUED!!!!

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Negative!!!

Not if the employee is on personal time.

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Is that a triple post or do you just keep saying it?

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I keep saying it. I'm sure you're not happy. Please go back to proving what happened prior to the video punch.

Uh oh

Still just speculation. Only reports so far have said Hill hit him either from behind, behind the left ear, or in the side of the head. Not really clear which is accurate.

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22 years ago? I can't promise that, and I'm almost certain neither could any of you.

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Doesn't make it less of a crime, but thanks for the babble....

You simply cannot hit someone from behind that is not posing a threat to you.

Kid in Laffy is on trial for Murder 1 right now....he woke up to find kids burglarizing his vehicle. Grabbed a pistol and ran outside and shot at the vehicle as it moved AWAY from him....got extremely unlucky and hit one in the head......so it's murder....now fast forward to Hill..

If the guy he punched would have died from the punch, Hill would be charged with manslaughter or negligent homicide at least...Do you really think it would matter if the N word was said by the guy on the ground and or walking away?

NO!...So that is why Hill is charged. SO all you guys taking how it was in the old days, guys fight, yada yada yada, etc. really need to ease up...All things in life are more closely watched now, so too bad for those who get caught on video. No matter what the guy walking away said, if Hill felt threatened, he could have turned and ran. I've heard the young man can move pretty quickly when trying to get away from large fast enemies.

This is how it will probably go down:

They already pinned second degree battery on the other suspect because he's the one who knocked him unconscious.

From what little we know, it doesn't sound like Hill will be charged with anything greater than simple battery. Only other possibility is second degree battery which requires specific intent to invoke serious bodily injury. Since it sounds like the "victim" doesn't have any serious injuries, and it was the other guy that knocked him unconscious, then it just seems doubtful they'll go past simple battery with Hill. But it's all a matter of interpretation and what they want to infer about his intent from the video. Maybe they make a big deal about the hit in the video being in the back/side of the head, maybe they don't. But it helps that the guy wasn't seriously hurt.

As for his probation, I don't know what the conditions were. I'm sure this would be a violation, so it is up to the judge's discretion of how to handle it. That's where all the speculation about what was said before the fight comes in. None of it justifies Hill's actions, or makes him less guilty, but the judge may consider it when deciding how, or if, Hill will be reprimanded.

Here's the relevant snippets from the Louisiana Code of Criminal Procedure:

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Art. 900. Violation hearing; sanctions
A. …..The hearing may be informal or summary. If the court decides that the defendant has violated, or was about to violate, a condition of his probation it may:
(1) Reprimand and warn the defendant.
(2) Order that supervision be intensified.
(3) Add additional conditions to the probation.

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So the court can basically give him a slap on the wrist if they want, or they can go full retard and consider revoking his probation and possible jail time.

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D. When a court considers the revocation of probation, the court shall consider aggravating and mitigating circumstances in the case, including but not limited to the circumstances stated in Article 894.1.

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The only real aggravating factor I can think of is the supposed hit from behind. Everything speculated about what happened before goes towards the mitigating factors from 894.1 that they can consider:

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B. The following grounds, while not controlling the discretion of the court, shall be accorded weight in its determination of suspension of sentence or probation:
(24) The defendant acted under strong provocation.
(25) There were substantial grounds tending to excuse or justify the defendant's criminal conduct, though failing to establish a defense.
(26) The victim of the defendant's criminal conduct induced or facilitated its commission.
(29) The defendant's criminal conduct was the result of circumstances unlikely to recur.
(33) Any other relevant mitigating circumstance.

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So this is why it matters whether or not the "victim" was harassing Hill and calling him N***** and possibly instigating the entire fight.