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re: LSU had more players ranked in NFL top 101 than one entire power 5 conference.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 7:09 pm to Mr. Hangover
Posted on 5/16/16 at 7:09 pm to Mr. Hangover
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Our fanbase is disgusting, embarrassing, and entitled
It's not the fan base. It's the shitty clowns who come into every positive thread toward LSU to flood it with their diarrhea posting to tell us how wrong a positive take is and how LSU will fail.
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:12 pm to Madking
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A pumper is someone who glosses over failure
Or maybe we are realists and we recognize that having a 10 win * season with a bunch of true sophomores isnt considered a failure.
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refuses to acknowledge underachievement
Outside of Saban, Harbaugh,and UM(although he hasnt been proven he can maintain a program which is harder to do than building one) who are these coaches that you know for sure wouldve done better?
You cant say Miles has underachieved when he has had the best tenure in lsu history. Its an oxymoron.
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puts the coach above the program.
No one puts Miles above the program. They just dont feel the need to shite on lsu in threads that are supposed to be positive.
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 8:16 pm
Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:50 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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They go out of their way to shite on miles.
You are the most dense and defensive poster on this board. You turn every cordial debate into an angry rant spewing the same sentences in every thread. You're not the only smart guy in the room.
...and I do recall our conversation from last year after which I apologized for making it personal...you were quick to mention that out of context the other day...
My criticisms of Les Miles are nothing that just about every sports outlet hasn't repeated. I even try to give you credit for your facts, while just encouraging you to look at things from a slightly different angle...but nope, you'd rather close your eyes, stick your fingers in your ears and yell "LALALA Can't hear you LALALA."
I find it hard to believe that anyone can listen to Les' s critics and not think they at least have a point.
Honest question: Is there anything you think our coach could do better? Anything you're not completely satisfied with? Or am I just absolutely criminally insane in respectfully criticizing the man?
I've wasted enough time on this thread-enjoy your evening.
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:09 pm to Rickdaddy4188
This is my opinion I think 05 and 06 were the most talented teams we've ever had at lsu him not winning anything those 2 years is a huge underachievement to me. And ppl do put him above the program it's happened in this thread. When ppl are criticle of him the response is that you're being criticle of the program. Les isn't the program. Coaches don't mind criticism I don't get how fans get upset about it when it's mostly warranted.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:23 pm to Rickdaddy4188
There are extremes on both sides of the fence. I've given my take on pumpers but the negatigers are equally extreme they blame everything including the weather on les. The problem is neither side gives an inch. Miles deserves a ton of credit and also a ton of criticism. He's won, as you say, at the highest rate of any lsu coach before him. The problem is teams like Bama teams like Florida under Meyer have won more and we've had arguably more talent over his tenure than both. Yes Saban gets the most now but he had a three year head start on Saban and a 5 year head start on sabans meaningful recruiting. Florida hasn't been a player since Meyer left. These are empty years that les could've capitalized on. This is where the criticism comes in. And the way he's run his offenses the past few years just adds fuel to that fire.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:46 pm to Madking
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I think 05 and 06 were the most talented teams we've ever had at lsu him not winning anything those 2 years is a huge underachievement
Anyone who blames coaching for 2006 is a college football retard. The Florida game was the deciding loss that season and the players fumbled the ball all over the fricking field while we were trying to score at the Florida 1 and field kicks at our 20. We fumbled away a TD and gave Florida 17 points on other frick ups.
You are either a troll or you don't know shite about football.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 10:44 pm to Nix to Twillie
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You turn every cordial debate into an angry rant spewing the same sentences in every thread. You're not the only smart guy in the room.
I didnt turn our convo into anything. I have cussed you or called you a name.
Im not the only smart one in the room. Just the smartest.
Calm down bro. I still love ya.
Youre a good poster and i thought we were cool. Youre mostly a fair poster.
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find it hard to believe that anyone can listen to Les' s critics and not think they at least have a point
What are you talking about? Ive repeatedly said Miles needs to have 1 loss or win the west or its time for change.
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Is there anything you think our coach could do better? Anything you're not completely satisfied with? Or am I just absolutely criminally insane in respectfully criticizing the man?
Of course there is. I dont even have Miles in my top 10.
But i dont blame him for stupid shite like 2012 bama.
We gained most yards against bama all year , had the 3rd most points, and had lead with 90 seconds to go and THE DEFENSE lost the game.
You cant blame the loss on the offense if that offense was more successful than any other team on bama's schedule.
Miles has enough short comings without reaching for some.
I apologize if i came off as a dick. Youre decent level headed poster.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 10:47 pm to Madking
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This is my opinion I think 05 and 06 were the most talented teams we've ever had at lsu him not winning anything those 2 years is a huge underachievement to me.
Im what universe is a sec west title and a bcs bowl win, not winning something?
Its telling that you dont give credit for 2 top 5 finishes.
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And ppl do put him above the program it's happened in this thread.
No they didnt. They just wanted one thread where people didn't shite on the program.
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Les isn't the program
Bruh, in cfb your head coach is the face of the program.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 10:50 pm to Madking
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The problem is teams like Bama teams like Florida under Meyer have won more and we've had arguably more talent over his tenure than both.
No we havent man. Come on.
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These are empty years that les could've capitalized on
What years? Bama and Florida arent the only good programs in the sec.
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Florida hasn't been a player since Meyer left.
So this is more proof that its not program that wins but the coach.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 10:51 pm to LSU Groupee
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Anyone who blames coaching for 2006 is a college football retard. The Florida game was the deciding loss that season and the players fumbled the ball all over the fricking field while we were trying to score at the Florida 1 and field kicks at our 20. We fumbled away a TD and gave Florida 17 points on other frick ups.
You are either a troll or you don't know shite about football.
I still want to know why he thinks a sec west title in 05 and a bcs bowl win in 06 means we didnt win anything in 05 or 06.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 11:18 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Yes 05 and 06 were good years but considering they were our most talented teams you'd expect a championship one of those years. I'm not like the negatigers who expect one every year but those 2 were on par with the miami teams of 01 and 02. Bama was irrelavent then so was Florida we should've won a natty there. And no they're not the only good teams but us 3 over the mike era have been the dominant programs. I didn't mean anything I meant a natty or sec champ my bad there.
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 5/16/16 at 11:20 pm to LSU Groupee
I didn't even bring up that game. We could've lost to Florida and still had a chance to win it all. There arnt many undefeated sec champs.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 11:27 pm to LSU Groupee
Yea man explaining both sides of the argument means I don't know shite. I didn't even mention the Florida game. Learn how to read. This is what you ppl do jump down anyone's throat who questions anything. Like I said to yal miles is beyond reproach and held above the program. Perfect example of it right here.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 11:39 pm to Rickdaddy4188
You really don't think we've had as much talent as Bama and Florida since miles has been here? The 3 years prior to Saban and Meyer both being in the sec were probly 3 of our most loaded teams I know Bama has more lately but we had a big edge on both teams for those 3 years. I think if you check the players in the nfl since miles has been here we have as many or more than both. I might be wrong but I doubt it.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:38 am to nvcowboyfan
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I love how any thread that celebrates how well our players do on the next level always devolves into a bash Miles thread. Thanks guys!
I love it too. These intellectually challenged folks with their flawed logic. There are never guarantees that the talent will be properly procured.
TBH, and like what another poster alluded to, I had a little grin reading all the Negatigers lose their minds in November when it was clear Miles was going to be retained. I swear some of them will go postal if Miles has a strong year and gets an extension or it is made virtually impossible for him to leave (unless by his own free will) before the end of his current. What is good for LSU is most important over any HC. But as long as Miles is doing what he needs to do to get us in position for championships and win enough to satisfy the powers that be nothing the special ed people can do anything about it.
The 30 percent of the fan base the rest of us love to hate - their pain is our gain. They don't like it, well they can become reborn Bama fans and send their support to them as far as I care. The rest of us don't need them.
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 4:39 am
Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:42 am to Madking
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You really don't think we've had as much talent as Bama and Florida since miles has been here? The 3 years prior to Saban and Meyer both being in the sec were probly 3 of our most loaded teams I know Bama has more lately but we had a big edge on both teams for those 3 years. I think if you check the players in the nfl since miles has been here we have as many or more than both. I might be wrong but I doubt it.
They have more depth in talent and the rankings do prove that to be the case. And that is over everyone else, not just LSU. Our top end talent is as good as anyone's. They just happen to load up on four and five stars behind the upper classmen who have already been through their process. Anyone who can't understand this is lacking the ability to follow logic or understand recruiting results.
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 4:43 am
Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:49 am to Rickdaddy4188
One of the great Negatiger mythologies was 2006. The UF game had some good homecooking to go along with the players, not coaches, failing (Hester did in fact score that TD!). Aubie game was played out the way we should. Our OL was a work in progress early in season and did not become dominant until past UF. Aubie had a solid D that year and a good pass rush. JR went through a metamorphosis (as did the entire team) after the UF loss. We just were not the same team earlier in the season as later and that is partially the reason how we loss two seasons by half way point of season.
The special ed section wants to use that season as proof of Miles as a failure. We had the greatest team since 2001 Canes' and '95 Huskers per the peanut gallery yet our idiot of a coach ruined their season. Heck, we were not even the best team in SEC. Sorry Negatiger nation, UF was a better team than LSU in 2006, albeit by just a hair. USC on paper had more talent and Ohio State (despite their loss in BCS CG) was dominant in regular season that year.
The special ed section wants to use that season as proof of Miles as a failure. We had the greatest team since 2001 Canes' and '95 Huskers per the peanut gallery yet our idiot of a coach ruined their season. Heck, we were not even the best team in SEC. Sorry Negatiger nation, UF was a better team than LSU in 2006, albeit by just a hair. USC on paper had more talent and Ohio State (despite their loss in BCS CG) was dominant in regular season that year.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 6:03 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Rickdaddy4188
Respect.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 6:55 am to Rickdaddy4188
You think you are the smartest in the room????? Paaaalease..... You think gaining a ton of yards against 2012 bama is something to write home about. And you think that scoring the THIRD most points against that bama team means something. It doesn't . Any fan would rather gain 200 yards and win than 400 yards and lose. If you can't tell the difference , I can't help ya.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 7:18 am to Nix to Twillie
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Rickdaddy4188 Respect.
Absolutely. Yes, he owns the Negatigers and are in their heads. Some of them in this thread:). The one thread the other day was classic. An absolute mauling!
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