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LSU Cost of Attendance Stipends = Unacceptable

Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:21 pm
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:21 pm
COA listed here.

LSU needs to increase our COA stipend. It's unacceptable to be in the middle of the pack of the conference. This could potentially affect recruiting in the near future. Alabama has increased their COA to above 5k.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21556 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:26 pm to
CFB just keeps getting more and more disgusting. And it's no surprise the SEC and Alabama are leading the pack.
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
3931 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:27 pm to
We give more in the shoebox though, which is not taxed
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31667 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:29 pm to
this will become of the new battle grounds of college recruiting. Interested to see how schools justify this kind of stuff
Posted by saint amant steve
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
5695 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

LSU needs to increase our COA stipend. It's unacceptable to be in the middle of the pack of the conference. This could potentially affect recruiting in the near future. Alabama has increased their COA to above 5k.



Mississippi State has to offer greater cost of attendance stipends in order to compete. How the hell else are you going to convince a young kid to spend the next 3-4 years of college in Starkville, Mississippi?

LSU has enough going for it that it doesn't necessarily have to pony up just to maintain an elite-level of recruiting.

Plus, most of the cost of attendance numbers are going to wind up being drastically overestimated in the upcoming years.

This could conceivably lead to the downfall of collegiate athletics.
Posted by Mindenfan
Minden
Member since Sep 2006
4785 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:30 pm to
Stipend Wars! This will not work out well.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52147 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

LSU Cost of Attendance Stipends
I didn't realize each school had different stipends. I figured everyone would be the same to keep a level playing field
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41157 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

"We've spent 100 years in the NCAA trying to make everything equal — so no extra benefits, nobody could get something that somebody else couldn't get. Alright. Now you leave it up to the institution, and I think some people have manipulated their numbers because they've significantly changed from last year to this year, and that's not the spirit of the rule."

"Everybody has historically from an academic standpoint tried to keep the cost of attendance down. It's a benefit to the students. It's a benefit to their scholarships. Now all of a sudden it's going to be different, and I don't think that's good."


He had a good point May, but since then Alabama raised their COA by 39%.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42333 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:37 pm to
If LSU athletics can give $10 million to academic side than it definitely needs to be higher
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
3931 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

I didn't realize each school had different stipends. I figured everyone would be the same to keep a level playing field


Nope. Kids that go to USC could get $1000/month.

LSU needs to buy up a bunch of the ghetto around campus, raise the local cost of living through artificially, and start doling our fat stipends.
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

If LSU athletics can give $10 million to academic side than it definitely needs to be higher



Exactly.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48928 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:01 pm to
wait wait wait..... Mississippi State claims they're a "Top 5 School"




maybe in the state of Mississippi
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 1:02 pm
Posted by glaucon
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2008
5292 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:44 pm to
umm given that we give basically the same amount as Bama, Florida, and A & M it looks like our stipend is just about perfect.
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
10470 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:51 pm to
How can this not be perceived as a recruiting advantage at this point? A Tennessee player will get double what an LSU player will get.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17126 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:22 pm to
LSU's bag men will make up the difference
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5060 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:39 pm to
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How can this not be perceived as a recruiting advantage at this point? A Tennessee player will get double what an LSU player will get.


Theoretically, the COA stipend is to reimburse the student for fees that their scholarship doesn't cover. It's not a "here's a bunch of money, do with it as you wish." So, to say that a Tennessee player is getting double what an LSU play gets, does not mean one player can afford something that the other player can't. The Tennessee player just had more expenses that were previously not covered.

Now the problem is that there isn't a set way to calculate true COA. Each school calculates it on their own. I believe this figure gets submitted to the Federal Government. I'm not sure if it is used when calculating Federal grants and student loans, but if so, watch out for some DOJ inquiries if a school can't substantiate the increase.

The COA is calculated by the academic side of the university, not the athletic department.

ETA: LINK

quote:

What's Included in the COA

As dictated by Congress, the COA is the average cost to attend for one academic year (fall through spring). It includes tuition and fees, books and supplies, room and board, transportation, and personal expenses. Colleges adjust the COA yearly to reflect changes to these costs.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 3:45 pm
Posted by NotRight37
Nashville, TN
Member since Jul 2014
5843 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:44 pm to
Yes this doesn't seem fair at all. A simple solution would be to hire an economic, math, computer whiz to determine the cost of attendance for incidentals at each school instead of letting the schools decide. Clearly schools like USC should have higher stipends than any of the SEC schools based on cost of living. I simply do not understand the disparity among the SEC schools by any reasonable measure. Some differences, sure, differences of 60-80%, hell no.
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3931 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:45 pm to
quote:


LSU needs to buy up a bunch of the ghetto around campus, raise the local cost of living through artificially, and start doling our fat stipends.


Alabama used the census to justify their increase. The point is LSU should do the same to remain in-line. I believe the $3,200 number was correct and responsible number. Also, it's still a reimbursement of fees the athlete doesn't really pay which equates to cash for food as many stated it would be spent.

There needs to be a cap in place and the numbers between SEC schools should not be more than about $800 in disparity.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 3:51 pm
Posted by Jabstep
Member since Jul 2014
2130 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

If LSU athletics can give $10 million to academic side than it definitely needs to be higher


This is so frickin stupid. LSU football doesn't exist without a strong university. Those kids should be happy they're getting anything more than they currently are. As a football player, you are given the world at LSU, free food, housing, tuition and books. Easily 75k in benefits over 4-5 years. They get plenty.
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3931 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:58 pm to
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This is so frickin stupid.


I agree, but to remain competitive, the school will be forced to get in the vicinity of the top levels in the conference. At this point, LSU will need to go up to around $4800 - $5000 to stay in the mix.

They should also petition the SEC to place a cap on this immediately and find other schools willing to do this as well.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 4:05 pm
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